Guest Farnsbarns Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Just wondering... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versatile Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Silly question.... Of course you can... As so too on an accordion.... V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyMoon Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Silly question.... Of course you can... As so too on an accordion.... V even sillier is..........actually playing death metal!!!... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karloff Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 even sillier is..........actually playing death metal!!!... Lol. "Why do you think the call it Death Metal kids ? Huh ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Absolutely!! Just plug it in, crank up the "Marshall" stacks to 12, and "Shred" away! They ARE a bit more difficult to jump in the air, with, while "shredding!" CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darling67 Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 even sillier is..........actually playing death metal!!!... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jannusguy2 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 You'll need a hammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Gibson Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Sounds better on a kazoo.Gibson make a kazoo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moparguy Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 If your talking about the thing you put against your teeth and pluck the wire to make it sound, then here ya go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quapman Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 No that's a Jew harp. Sorry I have no idea what the PC term is. A kazoo is something you hum or sing into which has a plastic bit that vibrates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moparguy Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 I couldnt remember, I had a kazoo when I was a kid, my father hated it, it disappered one day, I think there was foul plat on dads part😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quapman Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Now that's funny. I recall playing a trumpet in school as a kid. I could play pretty good. I took it to school to audition for a part. I couldn't make a sound come out of it. I swear to this day my dad stuffed something in there so he would wouldn't have to hear me practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldCowboy Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 No that's a Jew harp. Sorry I have no idea what the PC term is. A kazoo is something you hum or sing into which has a plastic bit that vibrates. Ozark harp or jaw harp, in PC speak.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Farnsbarns Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 No that's a Jew harp. Sorry I have no idea what the PC term is. Neither could I which is exactly why this thread is about harpsichords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinch Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Pfft. I love good death metal. And no, that's not a contradiction in terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayinLA Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 I would say that in my experience the best metal guitar players are some of the very best players period. They are equaled only by great spanish flamenco players and some jazz/blues players. Yngvie or Satriani would cut the hell out of Frampton, Blackmore, even Clapton or Stevie. No doubt about it. Bands like Megadeth have had some of the best guitar work in a revolving door of players all very good. Adrian from Maiden is as good as it gets. Steve Vai and John Petrucci would doumbfound most of the "guitar legends" loved by anyone who thinks that Pete Townsend or Robin Trower are awesome. Of course their are exceptions, but on a guitar forum I am shocked by the dismissal of Dimebag, Kerry King, Tom Morello, Mustane, and all the great shredders that can play guitar in any time signature, any mode, and quite frankly smush all the well knowns from most every genre of music out there. Metal guitar players are, face it, some of the very best. See Trans-Siberian orchestra, Dream Theatre, White Snake and so many other examples. Listen to Randy Rhoads and ask if you think Billy Gibbons could do that. Just my 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 I would say that in my experience the best metal guitar players are some of the very best players period. They are equaled only by great spanish flamenco players and some jazz/blues players. Yngvie or Satriani would cut the hell out of Frampton, Blackmore, even Clapton or Stevie. No doubt about it. Of course their are exceptions, but on a guitar forum I am shocked by the dismissal of Dimebag, Kerry King, Tom Morello, Mustane, and all the great shredders that can play guitar in any time signature, any mode, and quite frankly smush all the well knowns from most every genre of music out there. Metal guitar players are, face it, some of the very best. See Trans-Siberian orchestra, Dream Theatre, White Snake and so many other examples. Listen to Randy Rhoads and ask if you think Billy Gibbons could do that. Just my 2 cents. I confess I have not heard Randy Rhoads playing, but I fundamentally disagree. It has to do with what criteria you use to rate 'better' & 'best'. Any guitar player should be able to play in any time signature and mode. It only takes some application and a little practice. I dont believe that the accumilation of technique or speed is very important in assessing a player. I think its more about how much the player knows, and what he knows is usually informed by the music being played. Certain classical and jazz music is more demanding to play than any other I know of because of its complexity. For example, the chords in mainstream jazz are dense. You cant use a scale or a mode to improvise over them. The notes you use will be usually need to be directly tailored to the chord being played at any one time. That immediately makes a jazz players job more demanding. For that reason, according to the criteria I've described, all other things being equal, a great blues guitarist can never be as good as a great jazz player. However, there is another criteria that has validity also. How much do you enjoy a guitarists playing? If you use that, and most non players do; anyone could be the greatest guitarist. It then come down to your ability to move people emotionally. Music is being treated more and more as something other than an art form. You can look at it that way, but that removes it from its primary purpose for being there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 BTW harpsichords are always on at maximum volume because the strings are plucked in an identical manner. You cannot play one quietly. SO it should be pretty good for death metal. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayinLA Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 I suppose what I was meaning is that Metal Guitarists can kill it in other Genre's but rarely is the reverse true. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoZrblh2r3w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 ...Yngvie or Satriani would cut the hell out of Frampton, Blackmore, even Clapton or Stevie... ...Steve Vai and John Petrucci would doumbfound most of the "guitar legends"... ...I am shocked by the dismissal of......all the great shredders that can play guitar in any time signature, any mode, and quite frankly smush all the well knowns... ...Listen to Randy Rhoads and ask if you think Billy Gibbons could do that... With the greatest of respect, JayinLA, I must say my appreciation of any given player's talent in respect of their music relies neither on an ability to 'cut the hell' out of another; dumbfound or 'smush' anyone else nor whether or not any particular player could ape another's style. None of this is important (IMHO) in the slightest bit. But I agree completely that there are a great number of very fine 'metal' guitarists who have made their own individual mark in the history of guitar-based music. ...I have no idea what the PC term is.... Neither could I which is exactly why this thread is about harpsichords... Pip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Farnsbarns Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 WTF is a harpsichord anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayinLA Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 The purpose of my orig post was to provide a valid counterpoint to the dissing of metal guitar players as "plug in and shred" is something that can be easily done. I think anybody who would say so, regardless of your musical taste is not very astute or knowledgeable either about metal music or guitar, or music theory. There were several posts slamming metal as a "less than guitar player's" genre, when in actuallity it is the polar opposite. I knew it would be very quick before I get a point counterpoint from the other side of the argument. John Coltrane proved that you could play modally over the most complex chords that McCoy Tyner, or anybody in the Miles Davis camp could dish out, and yes, he cut the hell out of all the other sax players. (See Cannonball Aderly or Eric Dolphy) [quote name='pippy' timestamp='1460404149' post='1760019' With the greatest of respect, JayinLA, I must say my appreciation of any given player's talent in respect of their music relies neither on an ability to 'cut the hell' out of another; dumbfound or 'smush' anyone else nor whether or not any particular player could ape another's style. None of this is important (IMHO) in the slightest bit Cutting someone up is terminology we use in Jazz or Blues to explain what happens to an inferior player on the same stage in a jam or anyone who tried to hang with Charlie Parker. (Chasing the Bird Any guitar player should be able to play in any time signature and mode. It only takes some application and a little practice. Maybe, but most don't. I can safely say that the vast majority of well known pop/rock and most blues players don't. The would SHOULD is the important part there. Metal players do, because most come from classical and theory-based backgrounds. WTF is a harpsichord anyway? See the Yngie video I posted a few back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Gibson Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 What started out to be a joke the law don't understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 ...John Coltrane proved that you could play modally over the most complex chords that McCoy Tyner, or anybody in the Miles Davis camp could dish out, and yes, he cut the hell out of all the other sax players. (See Cannonball Aderly or Eric Dolphy)... "...Cutting someone up is terminology we use in Jazz or Blues to explain what happens to an inferior player on the same stage in a jam..." Hi Jay. Yes, I'm very familiar with the 'Cutting Contest' concept - having been subjected to it myself in my youth - and whilst I fully understand it's purpose I still have an intense dislike for the practice and, by extension, a deep-seated mistrust of anyone who should choose to employ it primarily as a means to debase and embarrass players with lesser abilities than the chief protagonist. Personally I prefer - and choose - to play with other musicians and not against them. Others will have a different preference, of course. Pip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyMoon Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 I can safely say that the vast majority of well known pop/rock and most blues players don't. In all fairness tho we don't really know if they can or can't because they just don't....there really isn't much call for a lightning fast scale patterns in "behind blue eyes" or "Little red rooster"...hehe... There are only a handful of the scale wizzards that can do much more than that....some exeptions of course, Vai, Malmsteen, Batio... Batio.....this guy's persona just bugs the livin heck outa me but the guys got mad skills...when he does his " thing " of course it blows you away but after about 3 minutes it's ...next!!!but if he steps out of that caberet act and plays I could listen to that all day.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHaEAm-zmSY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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