Gibson CS Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Guys I have an amp question...I know this is an LP thread, but this is where everyone hangs out. Whats is the diff if I use an amp with 1/ 12" speaker...2/12" speaker...or 4/12" speakers. If im thinking of running a 50w head....what will be the difference in sound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matiac Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 I dunno...more speakers=more sound??? Even that may not be true, I had a Yamaha 2x12 combo that was every bit as loud as my 4x12 Marshall halfstack, so I suppose that would be a subjective thing, to each his/her own? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeRom Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 More speakers push more air, sounds louder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaphod B Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Add to the mix whether you want to run an open-backed or close-backed cabinet. To compare the extremes, though, let's think about a 1 X 12 open-backed box versus a 4 X 12 closed-back half-stack. In this case you would find the big closed-back cab will have a much stronger bottom end presence and a more direct sound, wheras the smaller combo-type box would be radiating a good portion of its sound out the back and have a less strong bass presence. deepblue, I would recommed that you call the guys at Avatar Speakers (www.avatarspeakers.com), tell them what you're looking for sound-wise, and they'll give you some good advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 HI, i build cabs in my spare time and have my own brand of cabs, i have posted some pics here, dont know if you have seen them, here is the link to the thread: http://forums.gibson.com/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=1452 From my experience the best you can get is a 2x12 cab, as it is more portable than a 4x12 and sounds as big, not like a 1x12 that is more portable but sounds like a normal combo amp. Also you should chek your heads cab conectors and make sure if they are 2, 4, 8, or 16 Ohm, as you have to match this with the cab you choose. A different resistance from the cab can result in damaging the head beyond repair. Also you have to use a different cable, not th typical guitar or instrument cable, to connect the cab and the head, not doing this, can result in damage to the head and the cab. The cable you should use is like an electrical cable or a speaker cable: not concentric (i'm sorry my english is alittle rusty and dont remember the if this is the right word), the idea is that the cable is composed of two cables, a black and a red, or it can be two blacks, like a lamp cable or speaker cable. Here are some differences Impedance/resistance: 1x12 is equal to the speakers impedance (the ideal impedance for a guitar cab is 8 ohm) 2x12 is either 1/2 of the speakers impedance (parallel whiring), or 2 times the speaker impedance (series whiring). 4x12 yo can have it whired for the same impedance as the speaker (series/paralel) or to 1/4 or 4x the speakers impedance. config. capabilities: 1x12 just mono 2x12 and 4x12 you can whire them for mono or stereo use, but remember a stereo cab only does stereo with a stereo amp and stereo fx... if you dont use that, then it is useless to have a stereo cab. Overall volume: 1x12 will give you the impression of less volume as one speaker moves less air than 2 or 4, 4 gives more than 2 but, again, is a little too heavy and needs more storage space (i sell more 2x12 on a year than 1x12+4x12+bass cabs, go figure). Sound: 1x12 configuration gives you a thiner sound, and very unidimensional (again i dont even know if thats a word even in my language). 2x12 has more prescence, if you put different speakers you can get a very 3D sound. 4x12 gives you even more sound and better deffinition of all freciuencies, using 2 speakers of a model and 2 of other you can get a very 3D sound out of it. Anyway, what tipe of music do you play? And what type of use do you intend for your amp? A 50W tube head and a 2x12 cab is more than enough for most small and medium gigs, it works even for large ones, but in large gigs (and most medium gigs) you will probably (most surely) get a mic from the amp to the PA. Your speaker cab should be at least 50W if you are running a 50W head... 100W should work just fine, 2x12 50W each speraker, eminence does very good ones: patriot and red coat, in various models that fit almost any playing stile, and no, i dont work for them but i prefer tu use them and always recomend them as i have had very good results with them, and as oposed to celestions (made in china), are made in the states, and dont cost that much. Hope my comment was useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 I forgot... you should also look out for the open back / closed back, wheels on / wheels of implicatios... when it comes to cabinets every variable counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson CS Posted March 5, 2008 Author Share Posted March 5, 2008 know that my marshall 1960 4x12 A cab, kicks way more *** then my marshall 1936 cab @ the same ohms and volume weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson CS Posted March 5, 2008 Author Share Posted March 5, 2008 Thanks guys... Believe me, that information helped me quite a bit. I ended up getting the Orange PPC412 Four twelve inch Celestion vintage speakers. 240w Im very pleased with my puchase. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 congrats! any chance of seeing some pics here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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