Geetar_Axl Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 ..And worth something? If I end up with more money then I need by the time Im ready to buy my Standard, there is a 1988 Custom for $4,000 at a Guitar shop I know of. Opinions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matiac Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 4 Grand? It better be pristine, krikers a new one goes for a little more than 3, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 The quick answer is no! It is not worth $4K. $1500-2500 maybe, but not $4K. Vintage is a misused term. Vintage means something from a specific period or time frame, usually a particularly fine one. There was nothing exceptional about 1980's Customs. In terms of antiquity, I think anything past 25 years can qualify as an antique, but that does not make it valuable. Usually the term Vintage Guitar means one from a particularly fine period that is valuable, and that ends with the 1960 LP Standard and the few 1961 single cut LP Customs. The 1968 and early 1969 LPs will appreciate and go up in value, but nothing past that is (with rare exceptions) is going up a great deal in value. I think a proper price for an 88 Custom in pristine, mint condition is about $2500 max. Low end would be $1-1.5K for a beater. This is someone who is hoping to find an uninformed person who is thinking that this guitar will be worth $200K in another 10 years, and it won't be. Pass on this and get your Standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geetar_Axl Posted February 28, 2008 Author Share Posted February 28, 2008 Oh right, Australia mate. Customs go for $6,000 here. Guitars should be coming down because your dollar nearly matches ours again. But it wont because the world hates Australia media and products wise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Well then you will have to compare it to other models and prices there from the same period. I am in Canada and our prices tend to be close to the US ones, maybe slightly higher, but not a lot usually. Over there that Custom should be selling for about $500-700 more than a Standard from the same period and condition. Don't let someone use the word 'Vintage' to gouge you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geetar_Axl Posted February 28, 2008 Author Share Posted February 28, 2008 Les Paul Standard- $4,700 Les Paul Custom- $6,000 Slash Sig- $9,999 Those are recomended prices. Prices go up and down depending on colour also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 >Raptor wrote: >There was nothing exceptional about 1980's Customs. I don't know if I agree (OK, I admit I have one :) ). Tim Shaw pickups, fold out built in speed winders, diamond shaped straplocks (which work great BTW). Some of these things (except for the pickups) don't make it a better instrument, but do make it a unique period for the Les Paul. 88 might be on the edge of this period though, so it may have lost some of those features. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flight959 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Check this site for all your value related questions. paste all of the link! Not just the blue bit... http://www.provide.net/~cfh/gibson.html#col Some real useful stuff on this site. Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L5Larry Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Vintage is a misused term. Vintage means something from a specific period or time frame' date=' usually a particularly fine one. [/quote'] Webster's New College Dictionary defines "vintage", as it applies to this conversation, as "of old, recognized, and enduring interest, importance, or quality". Age alone does not make an instrument "vintage", nor does age alone make an old instrument valuable. Without the "recognized enduring interest (demand) importance (someone famous played one or it was of innovative original design or construction), or quality (a 60 year old Silvertone is still not worth $50), it's just a used instrument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Eddie, I had a 79 Custom. Nothing from that period is worth $4K IMO, and those features certainly are not worth a $1500-2500 premium. I have nothing against Norlins, I owned two, and I am not saying that LPs from that time are not nice, there are some very good ones, but they are just a used LP now. Nothing exceptional about them that will make them more valuable, now or in 50 years, than a 90 Custom, or 2000 Custom, or 1971 Custom. Thus my estimation of it's value. Axl, the $4700 Standard, is that the estimated price for a new one? You would need to compare the price of this Custom to another late 1980's LP i.e. Standard (just stating this in case I wasn't clear the first time). If that is the price of a new Standard, then consider for $700 more you can have a new guitar, that is probably lighter at the very least. You would have to try them both to decide which you like more. Back in 92 I looked at replacing my 79 Custom which was stolen. They were almost $4K then, so let's assume they were about $3000 new in 88 (that is probably high but will work), double that for Australia and it is $6K. So he is saying that in 20 years it only depreciated $2K, when a more realistic amount is about 50%. So I would say $3K is a better price range for you, and that would be for a very good shape 1988 guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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