Gibson Artist Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Can this price be right for a usa made Gibson? Musiciansfriend has been wrong before. What i wonder is if they get the price wrong again, would they honor the first price? Here is their brief description of the new firebird. Gotta admit, i got gas! http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/gibson-2017-firebird-zero-electric-guitar#productDetail Firebird Zero is new for 2017, this stunning Firebird Zero was designed around Gibson's S Series, with rigorous standards of quality and innovation. It is Made in USA, with American craftsmanship that is second to none, featuring superior quality, tone, and playability, and a unique design that will make heads turn.The Firebird Zero features a nitrocellulose finish, with our new Nitro Light Gloss for the body and a Nitro satin finish for the neck. It employs a glued-in neck which is made of one piece of solid maple with a slim taper profile, topped with a one-piece solid rosewood fingerboard. Solid wood for the body and completely new, modern, Made in USA, Double Slug DS-C humbuckers complete the picture for a guitar that delivers the absolute best value out there and amazing quality, tone and playability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darling67 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 No, it's not wrong. That's the price! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Gibson excels at not doing cheap well. rct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Scales Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 They've put out cheapies the past few years - LPJ, Melody Maker, CM with that sort of street price... And this one has poplar body (however many pieces) and 'made in USA double slug' pickups, glued neck... so it's not quite the same as a Firebird with neck through, mahogany, mini-HBs etc. OTOH I reckon the 2016 Firebird at $1000 street was probably the most jaw dropping guitar deal I've seen for some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Followed closely by this at $699 http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/gibson-2017-les-paul-custom-special-electric-guitar# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glp2012 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 My link showed $499...I guess I just made $100! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson Artist Posted September 3, 2016 Author Share Posted September 3, 2016 My link showed $499...I guess I just made $100! Youre right! lol I cant change my header so it will have to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson Artist Posted September 3, 2016 Author Share Posted September 3, 2016 Followed closely by this at $699 http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/gibson-2017-les-paul-custom-special-electric-guitar# Those are even nicer! Hog body, maple neck, rosewood fingerboard, slim taper. What i wonder is what those double slugs sound like? I dont care for the wine red, but i love the ebony model and if i didnt like the slugs i could always toss in some p90s and experiment. Thats a nice little git! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darling67 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 It's not exactly my cup of tea, but I'd not turn down one of these, if someone offered it to me. http://www.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/2016/USA/Vintage-Copper-Firebird-Limited.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 It's not exactly my cup of tea, but I'd not turn down one of these, if someone offered it to me. http://www.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/2016/USA/Vintage-Copper-Firebird-Limited.aspx I happily ran into one at Sam Ash couple weeks ago. Ugly. Like, poop ugly. Copper is a bit of a stretch I think. It felt ok, played alright and I think I could have set it up great, but man, that color would probably start to bug me in like a week. rct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly campbell Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Good For Gibson..Sounds like they finally are gonna battle the Fender in the lower dollar markets..I think it is a good move for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versatile Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 If people like it and buy it then.... There is an old adage....you only get what you pay for.... Personally the appeal of the Firebird is the original shape... The 'thru' neck of crafted laminates... The mini humbuckers.... The original banjo tuners.... The association with many top guitarists.... Johnny Winter Stephen Stills Phil Manzanera Brian Jones Ronnie Wood Eric Clapton et many al V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparquelito Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 The association with many top guitarists.... Johnny Winter Stephen Stills Phil Manzanera Brian Jones Ronnie Wood Eric Clapton et many al ....... and of course, a young Paul Stanley. http://innocentwords.com/feature-paul-stanley-rip-firebird-i/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Farnsbarns Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Youre right! lol I cant change my header so it will have to stay. Edit your first post. Click "use full editor". Then you can change the thread title and sub heading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cody78 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Good For Gibson..Sounds like they finally are gonna battle the Fender in the lower dollar markets..I think it is a good move for them. Bear in mind, Fender's 'lower dollar market' guitars are Mexican made. Cheapest USA Fenders are normally American Special's at around the £750 mark. Whereas, you can get a great USA made Les Paul or SG faded for £599! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Bear in mind, Fender's 'lower dollar market' guitars are Mexican made. Cheapest USA Fenders are normally American Special's at around the £750 mark. Whereas, you can get a great USA made Les Paul or SG faded for £599! Also they are pushing slightly more in to the Epi market at that price..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versatile Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 ....... and of course, a young Paul Stanley. http://innocentwords.com/feature-paul-stanley-rip-firebird-i/ Yes indeed.... Almost forgot to mention Gary Moore too.... V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparquelito Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Bear in mind, Fender's 'lower dollar market' guitars are Mexican made. Cheapest USA Fenders are normally American Special's at around the £750 mark. Whereas, you can get a great USA made Les Paul or SG faded for £599! There is one strata of Fender that is less expensive than the Mexican-made ones, the 'Modern Player' line that is manufactured at Fender's factory in China. They are actually very nicely made! To the original topic, and am pleased to see Gibson producing some newer American-made guitars that are a bit more affordable and therefore obtainable to the average wage-earner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Scales Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Bear in mind, Fender's 'lower dollar market' guitars are Mexican made. Cheapest USA Fenders are normally American Special's at around the £750 mark. Whereas, you can get a great USA made Les Paul or SG faded for £599! It's a bit of a 'double edged sword' for Gibson - one one hand if it's a genuine Gibson then you know it's made in USA for those who view that as critical in a guitar, but on the other that means anything affordable to the masses needs to be stripped back and won't be just like the mainline 'hero' models. Fender on the other hand, you need to look at the serial number to know if it's USA, Mexico, Japan,... So they lose a bit of the 'must be American' vibe, but for the many that don't really care, a Fender Strat is pretty much a Fender Strat (with many calling out their Mexican Strats as personal favourites), and they have opportunities to put guitars in vast numbers of kids hands with the Fender name and logo on them - think of the zillions of Mustangs, Jazzmasters and similar they'd have sold at made in Japan/Mexico prices to alt rock and grunge kids throughout the 90's. Each approach has its strengths and challenges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfpup Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Digging that heel joint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 It's not exactly my cup of tea, but I'd not turn down one of these, if someone offered it to me. http://www.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/2016/USA/Vintage-Copper-Firebird-Limited.aspx I bought a wireless mouse believing the colour didnt matter. Well it arrived in THAT colour, and I despise it. Its less like copper and more like metallic poo (when you're not felling well). (Cringe) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevDavidLee Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 ..OTOH I reckon the 2016 Firebird at $1000 street was probably the most jaw dropping guitar deal I've seen for some time. Me too. I bought one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versatile Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Purely personal opinion... :blink: I have very few 'painted' guitars....certainly no acoustics Preferring a natural or tobacco sunburst... IMO a Firebird looks particularly good in a woody finish With the exception of the popular White... V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cody78 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Me too. I bought one. Me three! At £850 here I couldn't resist either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cody78 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 With the exception of the popular White... Interesting how everyone likes different things. I've never been keen on white guitars (except maybe a Gretsch White Falcon), but I love the Firebird in cherry if not in a burst. Mine being a 2016 it's in the only option available this year - vintage burst, which I love too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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