blindboygrunt Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 The real reason is when you put wood into a mold ...It develops tension .As the years go by those tensions in the wood relax and it becomes more resonant. JC Makes a bit of sense that Juan Carlos Where'd you hear that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 The real reason is when you put wood into a mold ...It develops tension .As the years go by those tensions in the wood relax and it becomes more resonant. JC Makes a bit of sense that Juan Carlos Where'd you hear that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62burst Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 One luthier's .02 (reply #19): Edit: Ok- this is only a description of some of the forces acting on a guitar. Whether or not these changes affect sound over the years is for you to decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbpark Posted October 27, 2016 Author Share Posted October 27, 2016 I've enjoyed reading this thread and was worried as the OP that it would start a poop storm of arguing back and forth like I've seen happen on AGF on similar topics. Seems like everyone here agrees on some things, but when they don't it's done in a respectful manner, and both sides usually states it's neither right or wrong, just a differing of opinions. Refreshing to read for sure and appreciate everyones comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanCarlosVejar Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Makes a bit of sense that Juan Carlos Where'd you hear that ? Various sources .But here is respected luthier Richard Hoover talking about it: JC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbpark Posted October 27, 2016 Author Share Posted October 27, 2016 FWIW my 2017 J45 Standard was made on August 17th of this year. I bought it because it just has a fullness and enveloping sound that pretty much every other J45, SJ or incarnation of J45 I played recently on my search lacked. It still did feel and sound a little "tight" though so I was a little wary and second guessed myself a few times about returning it. I had it set up and have been putting it through it's paces and when I get the urge pretty much beat the hell out of the strings. I've gone through two sets of strings already. I'm sure it's part bullshit, part wear on the strings and maybe part of it is actually real, but the guitar is sounding "better". Believe me, I'm a picky pain in the ***, but am liking the guitar more and more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 FWIW my 2017 J45 Standard was made on August 17th of this year. I bought it because it just has a fullness and enveloping sound that pretty much every other J45, SJ or incarnation of J45 I played recently on my search lacked. It still did feel and sound a little "tight" though so I was a little wary and second guessed myself a few times about returning it. I had it set up and have been putting it through it's paces and when I get the urge pretty much heath the hell out of the strings. I've gone through two sets of strings already. I'm sure it's part bullshit, part wear on the strings and maybe part of it is actually real, but the guitar is sounding "better". believe me, I'm a picky pain in the ***, but am liking the guitar more and more. There's part of the player involved in the breaking in too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuestionMark Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 They are meant to be played. Just keep on playing it and playing it, and don't worry...it will break in when it's ready. You just need to be patient and keep playing it... QM aka Jazzman Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjl200 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Guitars started as several trees and each guitar once transformed is on its own path to realize it is now a guitar. The wood is still alive IMHO, just say'n.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 1477590277[/url]' post='1808570']There's part of the player involved in the breaking in too Agree. Don't overlook the enjoyment of breaking in a brand new guitar. I'd imagine it's like 'breaking' a wild horse. I feel like my 3 year old J45 gets a little 'wild' if I don't play it for several weeks. And, then I think part of the disconnect is the fact my ears got attuned to a different guitar. But, within an hour, I'm amazed at how much better it sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldCowboy Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Guitars started as several trees and each guitar once transformed is on its own path to realize it is now a guitar. The wood is still alive IMHO, just say'n.... A thought I have had many times as well! ☺ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainpicker Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 First off regarding the ToneRite; here is the largest acoustic guitar player ToneRite survey I've been able to find on the net (from over on the Collings forum...49 some odd pages of responses!): http://collingsforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/94760485/m/941101681/p/1 These are actual players across a broad spectrum. A very interesting read from a lot of different guitar owners. Secondly, my 2006 J-50 was very tight when new and I feel that it is just now beginning to loosen up. The bass response has always been lacking compared to the other strings up until very recently. To the OP I'd say that if you've found one with great bass response right off the bat that you'll be OK down the road. But each individual guitar is a unique thing and trying to predict the future is a crap shoot at best. I always wonder what Buddy Holly's J-45 sounded like new compared to how it sounds today and I suspect it sounded better with time than when he first got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 I'm sure it's part bullshit, part wear on the strings and maybe part of it is actually real, but the guitar is sounding "better". Believe me, I'm a picky pain in the ***, but am liking the guitar more and more. My 2010 Standard was brand new when I got it. It sounded very good finger-picked and already had an impressing bass, but when strummed you could feel how tight it was. The guitar was also significantly compressed, which made it totally different than fx my acoustic pals older and gentler Modern Classics (or is it a Historic Collection, can't remember). Since then it has opened a lot and is now much more relaxed. However there are still traces of the compression, which makes it a bit odd compared to the rest of my acoustics. Wonder if it'll ever disappear or if it has to do with its basically rather powerful nature. But broken in - YES, Sirs. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olie Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 I still do !😄 But what were you taking out of the fridge during that time? Mind lubricant?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumboluther Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Change the strings and play it a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 You're all insane Yep.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 They are meant to be played. Just keep on playing it and playing it, and don't worry...it will break in when it's ready. You just need to be patient and keep playing it... Yep... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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