rd2rk Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Had an Epi Custom Shop SG for a while, neck dive was annoying and as I was in a "flipping" phase, sold it. Kinda regret it, as it was otherwise a nice guitar, and I'd'a probably got used to it, but so it goes! Never had a Gibson SG, so don't have any idea how it compares re neck dive. Thinking about an Iommi SG, but seems like more frets=more dive? Can any Iommi owners comment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad1 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 If anything, more frets= less dive. The added frets would add weight to the body causing less. But I think the added weight of two frets wouldn't be enough to make any difference really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirrorboy Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 SG has unique tone but needs a wide strap with a suede backing. Then the neck dive is not too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 SG has unique tone but needs a wide strap with a suede backing. Then the neck dive is not too bad. Exactly, I have two Gibson USA SGs and I use wide suede straps (for everything, I don't use the "Seatbelt" straps at all.) They don't move at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 SG has unique tone but needs a wide strap with a suede backing. Then the neck dive is not too bad. Exactly, I have two Gibson USA SGs and I use wide suede straps (for everything, I don't use the "Seatbelt" straps at all.) They don't move at all. What they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve sin Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 I added a £20 ebay bigsby copy and there is no neck dive to my g400. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyRay Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Wouldn't be an SG without neck dive.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Wouldn't be an SG without neck dive.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguello Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Use an acoustic strap end up near the headstock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Neck dive should not be a major problem. Two of my favourite guitars have neck dive. No big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aoresteen Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 SG has unique tone but needs a wide strap with a suede backing. Then the neck dive is not too bad. +1 I have a couple of guitars that like to neck dive. Wide suede backed straps are the solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete B Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 The difference between an Epi SG and a Gibby SG is that the strap button is further up the neck on a Gibby. Epi SG's are modeled on the 66 Gibby SG's and even that 66 reissue Gibby SG has that same problem. Why Epi persist in that design is beyond me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Mustard Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 One really important consideration is the weight of the tuners. Many players swap out tuners quite casually, (I believe that guys do this because they CAN do it) All you need's screw driver. The Gibson Deluxe tuners that are stock on a Gibson SG weigh about half of what the Grover Rotomatics do. Grover Rotomatics are excellent machines, but not on an SG. It's as simple as that, or it might be. I learned this the hard way of course. I've installed heavy Grover tuners one two different guitars, and been annoyed when they became head heavy... Played them both for a length of time, just out of denial. Then replaced the Grovers with lighter weight but excellent tuners and had no further problems. Sooooo if you own an Epi SG that is head heavy, and you look at the tuners and notice that they are Grover Rotomatics there's your problem. Replace those with Gotoh Keystones from Philadelphia Luthier Supply, and your guitar will not dive for the floor. Grover also makes a set for Gibson guitars, called Grover Vintage Keystones... they look the same as Gibson stock tuners, and weigh the same, but have a bit higher ratio. I like this quite well also. Nothing wrong with the wide strap idea either, but removing the heavy Grovers solves the problem IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KurtCobainSG Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 I e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KurtCobainSG Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 I searched everywhere for the lightest guitar that sounded good. Ironically was the $99 epiphone sg special 1 limited edition. Has NO kill switch and a wraparound bridge. Best part is NO NECK DIVE AT ALL weight = 5.5 pounds. Every other SG I played including Gibson's were too heavy and had some thick necks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.