guitar_randy Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Does anyone else get turned off by Zack Wyldes squeals he continually makes with his guitar in everything he plays?Its almost like he has ocd and has to do it every so many seconds I think les would be more with his squealing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callen3615 Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 To each his own. Everyone knows him for that. Like Buckethead for killswitch, or page for the violin thing. Look at my sig lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callen3615 Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 The thing I like about his playing is his vibrato. Its really aggressive. When I got my paul the first thing I learned on it was all of no more tears. I love that solo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninety1vee Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 The thing I like about his playing is his vibrato. Its really aggressive. When I got my paul the first thing I learned on it was all of no more tears. I love that solo. true, but the constant pinch harmonics thing gets really old with me he's a hell of a player, yet it seems like he doesn't know how to write a riff without pinch harmonics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitar_randy Posted February 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 true' date=' but the constant pinch harmonics thing gets really old with me he's a hell of a player, yet it seems like he doesn't know how to write a riff without pinch harmonics[/quote'] Yea,thats way I feel too.Now and then would be ok,would fit in fine,but goes too far.Over does it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fingers galore Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 the constant pinch harmonics thing gets really old with mehe's a hell of a player' date=' yet it seems like he doesn't know how to write a riff without pinch harmonics[/quote'] I agree. He is technically brilliant but very boring. I can't stand listening to him honestly. I'll take a Gilmour type player anyday over his playing. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstMeasure Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 I really liked him for the first couple albums he did with Ozzy, but he did get kinda stale, and that makes Ozzy's newer albums very predictable. Still good music, just not cutting edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 ...yes that stuff gets boring really fast... I used to like how the guy played (mostly live) because of his vibrato (something most other ozzy guitarists disnt use at all) which made him sound different to others, at the begining of his ozzy career. That was fine when he played whit ozzy, maybe because he didnt do it as much (again, at the begining). Now, black label society, thats a completely different thing... the guy is just out of control... I think I have almost all of BLSs albums and while some songs (less than 25%) are good, most are boring due to hs abuse of pinch harmonics and vibrato. I cant believe such a talented player (a little overrated) can kill a good song that easy by just adding a fast solo with lots of his signature stuff... some songs requiere a fast solo, some dont; some dont even need a solo at all. BLS has some really nice soft songs, that really get you into them... and then out of nowhere comes a 100 m/h solo full of tapping, pinch harmonics, vibrato, and who knows what else. Just kills the song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepblue Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 I liked Zak at first. I agree with you guys. He gets stale fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 You guys watched this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJpCZpysf94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Pinch harmonics are great when played in the right spot and not abused. I can't play my way out of a paper bag but when I jam with "non-metal" friends and I do the pinch harmonics thing here and there it is always a head turner. I don't use much high gain, I like them better on an overdrive setting. Billy Gibbons uses them quote a bit in his own style and he sounds great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 I do it with out trying sometimes when I'm dickin around. And sometimes when I want to hit a pinchy I fail miserably... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callen3615 Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 You guys watched this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJpCZpysf94 Yeah Ive seen that. Funny. When he was younger he was better. But now he looks like a fat viking and cant play 3 notes without a harmonic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevezapp Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Pinch harmonics are great when played in the right spot and not abused. Speaking of squealies being used in the right place, and David Gilmour a few posts ago, Gilmour uses them in the Comfortably Numb solo from the Pulse tour to incredible effect - but only a few times here and there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callen3615 Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Check these out... The young ripped Zakk Wylde- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLfQeN5oTag Vintage Zakk Wylde- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtJPqYnDJUo&feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:oilpit: Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Zakk is so lame, because he has so much talent that he throws away on really bad shredding why does he do when he can do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitar_randy Posted February 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Zakk is so lame' date=' because he has so much talent that he throws away on really bad shreddingwhy does he do when he can do Well put.Alot of the crazy stuff he does does sound awsome and cool.But all the time?And it sounds appropriate for wowwing a crowd if playing a guitar solo while the rest of the band takes a breather for a few minutes,but in the beginning,middle and end of a song?No thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dem00n Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Well put.Alot of the crazy stuff he does does sound awsome and cool.But all the time?And it sounds appropriate for wowwing a crowd if playing a guitar solo while the rest of the band takes a breather for a few minutes' date='but in the beginning,middle and end of a song?No thanks[/quote'] I cant say it any better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jantha Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Dang.. you think his arms are that big from holding up that Les Paul? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbomb76 Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 I get sick of ANYONE who uses a certain aspect of noisemaking as a "trademark" to the point that it's in 90+% of everything they've ever played on. Angus doesn't do the open-string pull-offs on every other song, Page doesn't use the bow on every other song, Brian May didn't overdub 10 guitars on every other song...get the point? Wylde has a few songs with and without Ozzy I like a lot, but honestly, I can't listen to more than a handful of them. I hear the same "wheedly-wheedly-weeeeeeer" 90-notes-a-nanosecond crap in almost everything, just like those godawful pinch squeals. After 3 songs off ANY given album of his (or Ozzy's), you've heard everything he's got. It's all the same style, same type scales, same horrid tones. The occasional Randy Rhoads ripoff lick here and there is fine (when he doesn't butcher the hell out of them), but seriously, the guy's playing has zero soul and no roll. I feel the same way about a lot of modern bands who insist on tuning down to subsonic levels, over-process their guitar into some mushy craptone and always write songs based on the flavors of the week. I hear the same crap in most of it, and I only appreciate people who really know how to lay back and play in the pocket for the song's sake. Zakk just doesn't have that dynamic, and therefore I can't take him too seriously. He WAS funny as hell on Aqua Teen Hunger Force that time though. H-Bomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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