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Black Beauty - Legit? Strange Serial Number.

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There is a decent Black Beauty for sale locally. The seller said he inherited the guitar, hence is playing "I don't know".

He states it did not have a tailpiece, so a local shop installed a "silver" one since a gold one was not in stock. The switch also is not gold, but there is no mention.

I find it odd a guitar would not have a tailpiece?

I ran the serial number and it says "not recognized". I0502054 My guess is Saien in 2005, but not sure. Any help would be appreciated.

 

 

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I'm no expert on Epi LP's (only having owned one example) but that horn point is 100% the same as almost every single one of the Chinese fakes we see over in the sister Gibson LP sub-forum .

 

I'm quite happy to be told I'm wrong by those better informed.

 

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Several things that say 'fake' to me, and that's without even seeing the front of headstock.

But, I'm not familiar with the consistency of build over the years on these so maybe it's ok, but I think not.

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I have no idea why anyone would want to counterfeit one of these as there wouldn't have been any money in it. I would reach out to Gibson and ask them to validate the serial number. It could possibly be a refurb that someone decided to modify.

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different bridge and tuners , maybe. ? or pickups too ? all 3 ? maybe. How is the "action" and "feel" ? yes , get in touch with Gibson. definitely do that , if you are able to :)

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Epi-Talk has a thread on serial numbers, if I am decoding this one as it is, Saein Korea in 2005, the rest is the production number.

 

But there are a couple items that don't look quite right, the tailpiece in not centered, and the lower strings are pitching over, the high "E" is out of its saddle.

 

I would need more photos, but I would be suspicious of it.

 

As to why would someone fake an Epi, well a 100 dollar Chibson made into a 800 Epi is easier to sell then to try and sell it as a 5000 dollar Gibson.

 

It's like counterfeiting money, you hand someone a new 100 dollar bills, they will go a check them, hand then 5 new 20's, and they won't bat and eye at it. It's just easier.

 

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