NighthawkChris Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Well, we might detest our ISP's even more and have to pay a higher bill coming up... Think about those wonderful corporations out there that take of us so well... Think Equifax how much they cared about their product on their shelves... Just wait until the ISP's can start monitoring and using your data for your benefit while you pay extra for it. Doesn't make sense to me. Don't see the disadvantages of net neutrality offset the advantages of the non net neutrality. This strikes a nerve with me. Welcome to America boys and girls, the party is just getting started! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Scales Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Read it twice....still got no idea what the phuck it is about. Maybe I'm just thick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdgm Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 I think something like this was/is bound to happen sooner or later; potentially there is so much money to be made. This is just the start of it too IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Scales Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Thanks. Still pretty clueless - far as I know we pay $x per month for phone, tv and net (broadband via wifi) and have more data than we can use even with the kids doing all their games and stuff. The ISP offers various advertised packages at various prices, so we pay what the package costs not what they want to charge us individually. As for them knowing what you look at - I always assumed they could track it and that's how you get targeted adverts, and how child porn rings get caught and all that - no? Edit - just read your follow up post - a bit clearer now thanks. Surely then the first ISP that comes out with a policy (with legal binding) that they won't commit such 'invasions' will corner pretty much the whole of Internet provision market for themselves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bill Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 I'm sure Comcast will find a way to use this as a tool to raise my bill again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Edit - just read your follow up post - a bit clearer now thanks. Surely then the first ISP that comes out with a policy (with legal binding) that they won't commit such 'invasions' will corner pretty much the whole of Internet provision market for themselves? No. This is America. We have a competitive system that "let(s) the market decide". In my case that means I have COMCAST and I got fukk all else to go to if I hate them as much as I do. I got one choice exactly, I am a captive market just like every other franchised area of the country that has no alternative. rct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Scales Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 No. This is America. We have a competitive system that "let(s) the market decide". In my case that means I have COMCAST and I got fukk all else to go to if I hate them as much as I do. I got one choice exactly, I am a captive market just like every other franchised area of the country that has no alternative. rct The land of the free. Good luck over there guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bill Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 As long as I can get to my porn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Sorry Nighthawk Chris, nobody hates COMCAST like the home of COMCAST hates COMCAST. Get in line, Philly owns this. rct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelT Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 I can't believe this has garnered so much support that it passed. Lots of money changed lots of hands, most likely. The land of the free and the home of the censored. I get it that they'll be able to use this kind of information to find and catch "bad guys." The problem is that us people who aren't causing any harm to anyone bear the expense. Most of us are in markets that are absolutely strangled by one provider, such as myself. It'll be interesting to see how much my bill goes up because someone somewhere is going to have to pay for all this electronic monitoring and storage for the databases. Then, when those databases and the data contained within the 1's and 0's inconvenienced in their travel through the fiber optic cables get hacked and are in the "bad guys" hands, it'll make Equifax look like a piggy bank robbery. And, when Equifax got hacked MY credit score went down. Why not theirs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Scales Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 As long as I can get to my porn... I can see the tourist packages to Mexico/Canada..."safe banking, unmonitored porn, and complimentary access to the Gibson Lounge all inclusive!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bill Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 I have access to FIOs, Comcast, and the Satellite companies. I end up cycling through each of them when they start pissing me off. I believe the cycle starts over this January. Oh, do you guys have these Comcast sales asswhipes stalking you at your house. I had to call the cops on one a couple of month ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelT Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 I have access to FIOs, Comcast, and the Satellite companies. I end up cycling through each of them when they start pissing me off. I believe the cycle starts over this January. Oh, do you guys have these Comcast sales asswhipes stalking you at your house. I had to call the cops on one a couple of month ago... We have AT&T U-Verse whores coming through our neighborhood knocking door to door every few months. We can save so much money if we switch to their service and add our phones on there and blah, blah, blah. I've used Comcast and in using it, I came to the conclusion that it pretty much sucks, or at least it did in Nashville 12 years ago. Our local cable company is good enough for me and is rarely down and has good speeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 I have access to FIOs, Comcast, and the Satellite companies. I end up cycling through each of them when they start pissing me off. I believe the cycle starts over this January. Oh, do you guys have these Comcast sales asswhipes stalking you at your house. I had to call the cops on one a couple of month ago... That was me. You dikk. rct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelT Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 haha! We have AT&T doing the same thing. I had a ton of work to do in my nearly 1 acre yard - just started - and these c0c suckers wouldn't shut up! I told them I am getting better deal, I don't want their crap as they are already raping me on my cell phone, and they wouldn't get off my damn lawn like I invited them... I should have released my German Sheppard on them who won't take too nice to strangers. We don't take too kindly to your type 'round hur! I looked the guy straight in the eye and said, "I wouldn't have U-Verse if it was the only thing available in the area and it was free. It's too expensive, not as reliable as I have now and not worth it." I was sitting on the porch with my guitar when the guy walked up and I proceeded to start playing again when he kept talking. My comment was something like, "You may now leave. If you don't, you are now trespassing and the guy across the street that's looking at you on his front porch is a police officer and a good friend of mine. Good luck, you'll need it." The guy looked at my neighbor across the street and then went over to his house. I'm not sure what Officer Friendly said to him but the AT&T guy wasn't there for more than a minute. I probably wasn't being too far but the first time AT&T talked to me about U-Verse, they were saying how fantastic it is and all that. Then proceeded to tell me the price. Since then I've not known anyone who likes it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 As long as I can get to my porn... Well, they can slow it down for you, they can detect your unusually high use of the sites and say, hey let's slow it down and mess with him. Seriously, for instance I use Sling TV after cancelling Comcast TV, now without net neutrality Comcast can slow my Sling TV stream in order to try to push the new Comcast streaming services. They can slow down your Netflix feed too. Telecom companies must've been lobbying pretty hard in the last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hall Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 See my avatar. Most days, I wish we had just stopped right about there. * edit was to correct spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4Hayden Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Think about all the info Google~Facebook~and all these people that fill out forms wanting to know their genealogy. They freely give all the info about themselves without a thought. 4H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Think about all the info Google~Facebook~and all these people that fill out forms wanting to know their genealogy. They freely give all the info about themselves without a thought. 4H Yea, maybe but it does not end there. There is a reason ISP companies spent $26.3 million in lobbying on this and it isn't to get the stuff they already do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustymars Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Well, we might detest our ISP's even more and have to pay a higher bill coming up... Think about those wonderful corporations out there that take of us so well... Think Equifax how much they cared about their product on their shelves... Just wait until the ISP's can start monitoring and using your data for your benefit while you pay extra for it. Doesn't make sense to me. Don't see the disadvantages of net neutrality offset the advantages of the non net neutrality. This strikes a nerve with me. Welcome to America boys and girls, the party is just getting started! Bet you have Comcast too. Local government regulates it ya know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfpup Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Telecom companies must've been lobbying pretty hard in the last year. They spent millions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayinLA Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Like everything else...it will get more expensive, and the customer experience and customer service will get worse....if that's possible. Right now everything online is on the same bandwidth. Now, in America anyways, unless the content provider pays a premium (businesses don't 'pay' anything. All costs are passed to the consumer) they will be on shitty bandwidth. And you will be back in buffering land like the late '90's. Sound Good? Murica!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfpup Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Congress can keep the status quo (and nix this) with a simple resolution and a 51% vote. Easy peasey. Maybe for once our Congress will side with us rather than the companies that have contributed to their re-election campaigns, right. Seriously if Congress allows this to stand they are alienating something like 80% of their constituents according to survey data on net neutrality. BTW, if you haven't emailed your House rep and your two Senators, you should. If you don't know who they are, you are part of the problem rather than the solution, and shame on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayinLA Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Congress can keep the status quo (and nix this) with a simple resolution and a 51% vote. Easy peasey. Maybe for once our Congress will side with us rather than the companies that have contributed to their re-election campaigns, right. Seriously if Congress allows this to stand they are alienating something like 80% of their constituents according to survey data on net neutrality. BTW, if you haven't emailed your House rep and your two Senators, you should. If you don't know who they are, you are part of the problem rather than the solution, and shame on you. I have not emailed my congress people for 2 reasons. 1. They are major TOols 2. They are already against letting nuetrality expire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Scales Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 And you will be back in buffering land like the late '90's. Sound Good? Murica!! will it have that SSSSCCCHHHWWWEEEERRRRREEEKKKKKKEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSKKKKKKKKKKKKKEEEEEEEEEEEEEE noise for about 20 seconds after you plug your laptop in to the one phone socket connector in the whole office (well, out by the receptionists desk) 3 times a day to see if anyone has sent you an e-mail message like back in the mid-nineties? I miss that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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