Snorten Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Keep in mind, unless you ask them, satisfied customers will probably enjoy silently. Complaints will always be louder. It is impossible for one to determine the true dimensions of the "problem", if there is one at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 ...$1,700 AMC Gremlim... Orange, Yellow, or Green? rct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drog Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 In July I ordered a new Gibson ES Les Paul Memphis Blacktop. Not a cheap Guitar. There were 2 extra holes drilled, poorly refilled & poorly refinished in the Headstock. I returned it & they shipped me another one. I've used 4 different Gibson Les Paul Truss Rod Tools, including a new I bought directly from Gibson, & none of them will fit the Truss Rod Nut. I can't Set up the Guitar! I sent it to Gibson & am waiting for it to be repaired or replaced. There are definitely QC Issues. Lars Sometimes you need to scrape the nitro off the nut for the tool to fit. As for the first issue, I have no idea. But I have seen companies repair Gibson (or other brands) and then pass them off as brand new. I see thousands of new Gibson guitars each year and rarely do you see major QC issues. Sure you might see some over scrapped issues, and small nicks but nothing to get concerned over. All brands have little imperfections from time to time. For the most part the Gibsons I see have no flaws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Orange, Yellow, or Green? rct as I recall this one was silver and blue..... it was some sort of "sports edition" :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karloff Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 as I recall this one was silver and blue..... it was some sort of "sports edition" :) Lol. I remember that color. A buddy of mines mom had one that color. She was hot.(the mom, not the car) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bill Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Lol. I remember that color. A buddy of mines mom had one that color. She was hot.(the mom, not the car) Pics? (the mom, not the car) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Lol. I remember that color. A buddy of mines mom had one that color. She was hot.(the mom, not the car) haha!!!.. I do think I got more mileage out of the les paul! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFord Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Nothing compares to a good Gibson, that's why. I've had quite a few over the years and the ones I currently have are the "keepers": 335, Firebird V, Lucille and a Les Paul Studio. None of them are perfect but I haven't found anything I like better. One or maybe 3 more are in the cards before they plant me in the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdgm Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 My first Gibson was an 83 LP Standard in candy apple red with gold hardware. I still have it & it's still in excellent shape because I have taken really good care of it since day one. Rev...I would love to see a pic of that one! After being a Fender guy all my life I finally bought my LP in 2012. It's boosted my playing in every way - the shorter scale really opened everything up for me. I'd had a L6 Deluxe in the late 80s but sold it as the neck was a bit narrow. Another regret! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Sometimes you need to scrape the nitro off the nut for the tool to fit. As for the first issue, I have no idea. But I have seen companies repair Gibson (or other brands) and then pass them off as brand new. I see thousands of new Gibson guitars each year and rarely do you see major QC issues. Sure you might see some over scrapped issues, and small nicks but nothing to get concerned over. All brands have little imperfections from time to time. For the most part the Gibsons I see have no flaws. They were purchased from Sweetwater. They were brand new. Not Chibsons or whatever.. I've had previous QC issues in the past few years with Gibson & Epiphone. Both purchased brand new from Major Retailers. First was my Gibson Masterbilt Bozeman J-160E & the second my Epiphone 50th Anniv. 1961 Reissue Epiphone Casino with Tremotone. In both cases I sent them back to Gibson & Gibson/Epiphone took care of the issues. I love their Guitars & have had many over the past 30+ years... From 50's models to current models.... But, Gibson is not without QC issues... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevDavidLee Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Rev...I would love to see a pic of that one! Done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrNylon Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 A Gibson SG Std. Bass has a look all it's own, and a sound that's lower, and meaner than any other. The SG body is the 60's Rock Crusher! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryUK Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 I think a Les Paul is an iconic guitar. But I've never had a perfect one. My two Les Paul customs in the 70's and 80's were both faulty. Both had flaking lacquer on the body binding. If I were to buy a new custom shop I'd expect perfection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bill Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Done! I finished Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigzag Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 In 1996, when I picked up guitar again after, essentially, a 25 year layoff, I bought a Studio model LP from Interstate Music Supply. It was flawless. I loved it. A half dozen guitars later, I bought an ES-335 from GC. I went thru three before I settled on one that I could live with (because of intolerable flaws). The neck and binding are slightly flawed, but overall, it is a beautiful, solid, wonderful playing instrument. My playing and preferences have evolved, and I've gotten rid of a bunch of guitars (including the LP) because they just didn't work for me anymore. I still have the 335 and play it a lot. I settled on hollow and semi-hollow guitars primarily for my love of the 335, but it is now my number three go-to guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdgm Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Done! Thankyou! That is very fine indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbluesplayer Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Orange, Yellow, or Green? rct My buddy's parents had one of the metallic blue ones with the funky silver stripes on the side of the rear part. This is the guitar you need to check out right here, the 339. You'd like one. More snap than a Les Paul, not quite as much booty as a 335, but not just a Les Paul that's been hollowed out, like the 336's. More like a 335, just not so big that you look like you're hiding behind a billboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 My buddy's parents had one of the metallic blue ones with the funky silver stripes on the side of the rear part. This is the guitar you need to check out right here, the 339. You'd like one. More snap than a Les Paul, not quite as much booty as a 335, but not just a Les Paul that's been hollowed out, like the 336's. More like a 335, just not so big that you look like you're hiding behind a billboard. Oh I've had a bunch of them in my hands. I almost brought one home from Oklahoma City Oklahoma in...2014 I guess. I've probably given a dozen of them a go, especially a couple out in Milwaukee in 16 I think. Almost again. I keep looking though. rct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bill Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 My buddy's parents had one of the metallic blue ones with the funky silver stripes on the side of the rear part. This is the guitar you need to check out right here, the 339. You'd like one. More snap than a Les Paul, not quite as much booty as a 335, but not just a Les Paul that's been hollowed out, like the 336's. More like a 335, just not so big that you look like you're hiding behind a billboard. I love mine!!! That is my go to guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparquelito Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 I have played Gibson Les Pauls on and off since the 1970's, and currently own two of them. As many of you have indicated, the reasons we are drawn to that which we are drawn are many and varied, and probably not all that easy to put into words. The Les Pauls, ES-335's, the SG's, and even the Explorer; They are solid, iconic, and sexy. Just owning one commands respect, at least until the moment you demonstrate that you don't deserve that respect (by, for instance, playing poorly). Fender Strats and Teles are necessary tools in any musicians toolkit, and there is a certain romance (and a unique set of tones) to those guitars. But those utilitarian qualities don't translate into sexy. Not in my book, anyway. And I love my Fender guitars. And my Ibanez's and all my other guitars. The Gibsons are just different to me. Different in a good way. :mellow: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bill Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Just owning one commands respect, at least until the moment you demonstrate that you don't deserve that respect (by, for instance, playing poorly). There goes any credibility I may have had Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevDavidLee Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 My buddy's parents had one of the metallic blue ones with the funky silver stripes on the side of the rear part. This is the guitar you need to check out right here, the 339. You'd like one. More snap than a Les Paul, not quite as much booty as a 335, but not just a Les Paul that's been hollowed out, like the 336's. More like a 335, just not so big that you look like you're hiding behind a billboard. Nothin wrong with my CS336 Bro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 So what draws you to Gibson's? Curiosity initially. I used a Fender Stat exclusively for 25 years and I still favour the sound of a Fender. I cannot emphasise strongly enough that I have no loyalty to any guitar brand. I am a guitar tart. I traded the Strat for a Jackson. I never regret selling any guitar. I joined this forum in 2015 after buying a ES-339 Studio. I played many Gibsons in 2015, struggling to get used to the 24.75” scale. I had played an Epiphone ES-339 at a Portsmouth Store and liked it, but I thought I should try a Gibson ES-339. So I went to Guildford’s Andertons. I liked the spec of the 2015 ES-339 Studio: maple neck, maple fingerboard, Master tone & volume controls (I detest the 4 knob circuit) No pickguard Andertons didn’t have the Studio at the shop. While they fetched it from their warehouse I tried out all their other Gibson ES-339s. They were all 2014 models and there was something wrong with every one of them (one was serious). So I was sure I was going home without a Gibson. However the 2015 Studio came & was excellent straight out of the box. Well, almost. The selection switch didn’t work perfectly (intermittent signal loss). I told the staff but the switch worked ok when they tried it. Of course it failed again when I got home. I had to fish the switch out of the f-hole and clean the contact. It’s worked fine ever since. And yes, the G string started binding in the nut. I asked you fellers about it here and my Gibson education began… I didn’t think I was going to stay here. I was absolutely astounded at the minutia you all get so passionate about :o . I really couldn’t care less about Les’s 100 signature. To think of it as an issue seems silly . But you all know your stuff and are good company. I bought a Les Paul Less+ later that year. Rabs was my co-conspirator with that venture. Thanks again Rabs :) My favourite Gibson player was Peter Green. So yes I like the sound of Gibsons, but it’s not my sound. People don’t get that. I can use all of my technique on Rickenbacker & PRS guitars, but I feel limited in what I can play on a Gibson. Gibsons sound best using hammer on & pull off tech. But 85% of my style is alternating picking. It doesn’t suit the Gibson and I can’t play like Peter Green! I enjoy and value all of my guitars, but there isn’t one I wouldn’t drop like a hot brick if something better came along. As it stands, they all become favourites some of the time. Like I said, I’m a tart !. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Scales Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 No loyalty here, but somehow I have ended up 2 made by Gibson and none by Fender. I like the idea of Fenders, but that is how it's gone. Yesterday I decided to take my old Epiphone to rehearsal after not playing it for probably a year (feeling guilty) and despite its narrow neck and shorter scale length and different 'geometry' from the usual Aria, it just felt really right. I picked up another guys new Ibanez and it...didn't. I can only assume Gibson put effort into things like the neck taper that others (including my old Aria) didn't to the same extent.(?). I think Gibson make some attractive looking guitars, and I am keen on several of their 1 pickup models in particular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snorten Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 ... Yesterday I decided to take my old Epiphone to rehearsal after not playing it for probably a year (feeling guilty) and despite its narrow neck and shorter scale length and different 'geometry' from the usual Aria, it just felt really right. I picked up another guys new Ibanez and it...didn't. I can only assume Gibson put effort into things like the neck taper that others ... Yeah. I played Strats for some years and that always felt quite right until I played Les Pauls and that felt REALLY right :lol: I don't know. It is something in the instruments dimensions that just fits and feels more natural. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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