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Hey good people, I'm looking to purchase an epi casino or casino coupe or maybe a sheraton 2. Any advice, opinions, or just comments on your experiences with these guitars will be appreciated

thanks BDuke

 

ps thoughts on an EPI Blueshawk

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Hey good people, I'm looking to purchase an epi casino or casino coupe or maybe a sheraton 2. Any advice, opinions, or just comments on your experiences with these guitars will be appreciated

thanks BDuke

 

The Casino and the Sheraton are two very different animals. One a genuine hollowbody guitar with P90s; the other a semi-hollowbody with a central piece of wood into which two humbuckers are mounted.

 

You'll hear lots of contrasting opinions on this topic. To my mind, if versatility is important (if you only want to own one of these, or only one guitar), I'd always go with the Sheraton. Enough of a semi to get beautiful jazz and blues tones, close enough to a solidbody if you want it to sound like a Les Paul... But that's just my opinion.

 

Honestly, though, you'll have to play them both to make your mind up properly.

 

Re: the coupe. Unless you're a smaller person, or have a reason for wanting the smaller guitar (portability?), I'd go with the regular full-size Casino, if it turns out that a Casino is the guitar you want.

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The Casino and the Sheraton are two very different animals. One a genuine hollowbody guitar with P90s; the other a semi-hollowbody with a central piece of wood into which two humbuckers are mounted.

 

You'll hear lots of contrasting opinions on this topic. To my mind, if versatility is important (if you only want to own one of these, or only one guitar), I'd always go with the Sheraton. Enough of a semi to get beautiful jazz and blues tones, close enough to a solidbody if you want it to sound like a Les Paul... But that's just my opinion.

 

Honestly, though, you'll have to play them both to make your mind up properly.

 

Re: the coupe. Unless you're a smaller person, or have a reason for wanting the smaller guitar (portability?), I'd go with the regular full-size Casino, if it turns out that a Casino is the guitar you want.

 

 

Thanks I own a LP. I"m looking for something different. Casino or Sheraton? hmmmmm

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Thanks I own a LP. I"m looking for something different. Casino or Sheraton? hmmmmm

 

If you already own a Les Paul, then I'd be inclined towards a Casino. The differences in tone between a Les Paul and a 335 (or Sheraton) are subtle. The Casino is an entirely different beast.

 

With Casinos, don't make the mistake (as some people do) of just thinking of them as Beatles-esque. Other than hi-gain stuff (being hollow they feed back like hell), they are fairly versatile. You can get some lovely blues tones out of them.

 

Besides, the classic Beatles sound requires Rickenbackers, not Casinos. [rolleyes]

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If you already own a Les Paul, then I'd be inclined towards a Casino. The differences in tone between a Les Paul and a 335 (or Sheraton) are subtle. The Casino is an entirely different beast.

 

With Casinos, don't make the mistake (as some people do) of just thinking of them as Beatles-esque. Other than hi-gain stuff (being hollow they feed back like hell), they are fairly versatile. You can get some lovely blues tones out of them.

 

Besides, the classic Beatles sound requires Rickenbackers, not Casinos. [rolleyes]

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How bad is the feedback? i would be running it through a Roland Stage Blues Cube. I"M mostly a rhythm player but I want it to plays blues on as well.

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Been a while since I had a Casino. I had one around 2008/9 I used to play through a Fender Blues Jr. Feedback was manageable. My sense is that things only get really rowdy if you plug them into a high gain amp. But then, they're scarcely a "metal" guitar...

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if you're drummer is a heavy hitter, then you're average stage volume could be enough to get you into feed back with the casino

 

I have a Sherry pro II our guy is pretty heavy hitter... We're not overly loud, but we're run at a good clip.. my Sherry doesn't really feedback.

 

have to consider the 60 cycle hum too w/P90s, which can be hard to squash if using a lot of gain.

 

P90s can be great and a PITA all at the same time. They have their own voice for sure.

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if you're drummer is a heavy hitter, then you're average stage volume could be enough to get you into feed back with the casino

 

I have a Sherry pro II our guy is pretty heavy hitter... We're not overly loud, but we're run at a good clip.. my Sherry doesn't really feedback.

 

have to consider the 60 cycle hum too w/P90s, which can be hard to squash if using a lot of gain.

 

P90s can be great and a PITA all at the same time. They have their own voice for sure.

 

I agree. I'm always enthusiastic about P-90's until I actually have to use P-90's, then I'm not. Got rid of my last P-90'd guitar about ten years ago, don't miss it. I wish I had my P-100'd Special from about 1998.

 

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if you're drummer is a heavy hitter, then you're average stage volume could be enough to get you into feed back with the casino

 

I have a Sherry pro II our guy is pretty heavy hitter... We're not overly loud, but we're run at a good clip.. my Sherry doesn't really feedback.

 

have to consider the 60 cycle hum too w/P90s, which can be hard to squash if using a lot of gain.

 

P90s can be great and a PITA all at the same time. They have their own voice for sure.

 

What is the pickup configuration on a factory Sheraton 2

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What is the pickup configuration on a factory Sheraton 2

 

Two full-size humbuckers. There are other Sheraton variations out there with two mini-humbuckers.

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What is the pickup configuration on a factory Sheraton 2

 

 

the Shearton Pro II comes with Pro Buckers, & Push/Pull pots (Volume) for the coil splits.

 

I also have a few LPs and the Pro Buckers are pretty close in output to my LPs. They are real good sounding pickups. when compared with pickups from previous/earlier Sheraton's, (I had a late 90s Sheraton which I sold in probably 2000) the Pro Buckers are far and away better pickups.

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Post surgically I bought a Casino Coupe because of weight restrictions I was on. It served its purpose very well. I could sit on the edge of my bed and I had a small practice amp on the night stand. And I could drive my wife crazy with my practicing. And I really got to like the P-90's sound.

 

After the two months of the weight restrictions I went back to playing my other guitars. All due respect to the little Casino, I just had other guitars I chose to pick up. This was over a year ago. Then, at some point, I decided to pick up the Casino again. I have no idea why. Just on a fluke and because it sat there looking at me seemingly lonely. I was playing standing and doing that the guitar felt horribly neck heavy. So much so I haven't played it again. Maybe if I played it more I would learn how to compensate. (I was going to sell it. But I have a granddaughter, 10 years old, that just decided she wants to play guitar. I bought her a parlor acoustic to learn. If she continues to show interest and wants to try electric this would be perfect size for her to try. So I'm keeping it possibly for that.)

 

Maybe it was me. If you're considering the Coupe I encourage you to try it in a store and see if you experience the neck diving.

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hey matonanjin

 

I don't know if this helps, but what sort of strap are you using?

 

Some guitars just work better with a suede or brushed leather strap. The "seat-belt" style straps sometimes are just not good straps for light guitars

 

(SGs are notorious for this, but the problem is solved with a better strap.)

 

just a bit of food for thought-----

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kidblast, that is food for thought and I appreciate your taking the time to suggest that. I don't know what strap I had on it. I don't have any strap on it now. But I'm not going to play it anymore. I'm either going to sell it or just stick it in a corner in case my granddaughter continues her interest in playing guitar and wants to try electric.

Thanks again.

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ya never know,, some day you may pick it up again and think you'll keep it.

 

it's a sickness we all share,, there is no cure.... :)

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Hey good people, I'm looking to purchase an epi casino or casino coupe or maybe a sheraton 2. Any advice, opinions, or just comments on your experiences with these guitars will be appreciated

thanks BDuke

 

ps thoughts on an EPI Blueshawk

 

This is very odd. I was going to post a message identical to yours. That kinda freaks me out just a bit. Are you looking for a blues machine like me also? I have personally decided on either a Casino (full size) or a Blueshawk. I read a review of the blueshawk and the guy said it was the best blues guitar he had ever played. I am also looking at the Wildkat Studio, very similar to the Casino in a lot of ways and a lot cheaper.

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This is very odd. I was going to post a message identical to yours. That kinda freaks me out just a bit. Are you looking for a blues machine like me also? I have personally decided on either a Casino (full size) or a Blueshawk. I read a review of the blueshawk and the guy said it was the best blues guitar he had ever played. I am also looking at the Wildkat Studio, very similar to the Casino in a lot of ways and a lot cheaper.

 

The Wildcat is not similar to the Casino in any way, the Casino is a true hollow body, The Wildcat is milled from a sold block of wood, not really a hollow body at all.

 

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For me, the Casino is the best guitar Epiphone makes. I own one, along with a Sheraton and a Sorrento.If I could only keep two guitars, the Casino would be one of those two.

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Two full-size humbuckers. There are other Sheraton variations out there with two mini-humbuckers.

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I think my thoughts have more than likely been covered in previous answers, but I would say it is a matter of tone and feel. I have a full hollow body Emperor and it is more acoustic and woody in tonal character, while my Riviera with the semi-hollow gets a more beefy electric tone. I love both sounds, but if you have to pick, I would think the 335 would give you enough of a contrast over your LP. The Sheraton is a sweet and versatile guitar for blues and rock, as well as jazz. I have owned all of the guitars we are talking about save the Casino. I think you will be happy either way, but if you try them first unplugged and plugged in, your heart will guide your decision.

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If you like the sound of P-90s the Blueshawk has hum cancelling ability (60 cycle noise) using its dummy coil. P-90s have their own tone genere going on. If you intend to go back and forth between a guitar with humbuckers and P-90s you may not like them. The advantage P-90s have is extreme range of usable tone. To get the most out of a P-90 your amp and overdrives need to be tweaked for them usually a mid boost with the OD drive no more than about half way. The Blueshawk has a Varitone switch with 6 positions (like Lucille). I use #5 for both pickups setting and #6 bridge pickup when I need my lead to punch through. The rest of the time the Varitone is off. The only thing I have found wrong is that the Epiphone Deluxe Tuners (with the rectangular casing) do not last very long and I would recommend replacing them with good quality tuners, making a major improvement in the guitar or any Epiphone that uses them. The Epiphone Blueshawk has a few minor differences from the Gibson BluesHawk that I am temped to call improvements. I own both, seem my my Blueshawk/BluesHawk comparison.

 

I own 7 P-90 guitars Epiphone's and Gibson's. My Blueshawk and BluesHawk are my most versatile guitars both with great sound.

 

You may notice I make a distinction between Blueshawk and BluesHawk. That is because the Epiphone is one word Blueshawk and the Gibson is two words Blues Hawk.

 

 

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The Casino is a cool guitar for the price. P90 are not Gibson' s but they are not bad.

 

The Sheraton is a great Gibson ES-335-like but this guitar need good humbuckers and better electronics.

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I actually sometimes miss the more confrontational style of SG Player, Rev 6 :D

 

But you're apparently working on your attitude. Good for you.

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Hey good people, I'm looking to purchase an epi casino or casino coupe or maybe a sheraton 2. Any advice, opinions, or just comments on your experiences with these guitars will be appreciated

thanks BDuke

 

ps thoughts on an EPI Blueshawk

 

Update: just bought a early 90's Sherry. 92-94 its hard to date these early Epi's. anyway love it. It is about half the weight of my LP. two full sized humbuckers really sound great through my blues cube.

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