True Gain-Mark Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 hello everybody! I've read some reviews about Les Paul faded (2017), seems not everyone liked it, but i'm still tempted to get one, quite cheap! I would like to have a reliable Les Paul for touring without spending much money, would you recommend the 2017 faded or better get something else? My first option was a Les Paul Classic (always 2017) sure another kind of quality (and price!) but you know, since the guitar is gonna be scratched touring around, i wish i could spare some cash and have anyway a decent and reliable Les Paul ; ) Thanks in advance for your tips! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinch Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Would look into a 2017 Tribute. Less weight relief, only marginally more expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Or a faded from 2016 back, in 2017 they went with dot inlays also. The 2016 Tributes were nice also. I guess it depends on the price and how you like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Would look into a 2017 Tribute. Less weight relief, only marginally more expensive. ...this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 https://reverb.com/item/9461938-gibson-lpj-2013-aged-rubbed-satin-finish-w-original-case https://reverb.com/item/6966697-gibson-les-paul-studio-2016-worn-brown https://reverb.com/item/9713242-2016-gibson-les-paul-50s-tribute-t-satin-ebony Look around, some of them play real well and more than likely can be bought around 500. depending on condition, case etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bill Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Don't be afraid to buy used. You can find some great deals. The above advise is good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Gain-Mark Posted January 25, 2018 Author Share Posted January 25, 2018 Thanks guys! I never had a 2nd hand guitar before, but sure, never say never ; ) About the Classic 2017? What do you think? As far as i understood you don't like much the weight relief...or am i wrong? I've tried one of those, Zebra humbucker, sounds great! "just" twice much faded price...that's the main problem here! I'll look around anyway, when i'll get one i'll post something, i must confess this classic is tempting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinch Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 I can tell, or think I can tell, my Tribute has the 9-hole weight relief (compared to my Epi PlusTop LP) - it's excellent, but I don't think I'd want more weight relief. The Ultra Modern weight relief, in theory, doesn't appeal to me, but I don't think I've ever actually played one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 I can tell, or think I can tell, my Tribute has the 9-hole weight relief... How? Pip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristopherJ Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 https://reverb.com/item/9891984-gibson-2016-60-s-tribute-les-paul-vintage-sunburst From Sam Ash. Bargain. Love the P90's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 The Classics are on sale... a little higher priced than.... this Mahogany top Standard, looks nice though... https://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-GIB-LPSMT16II-NACH1?src=WNWSLTTRE180127A&utm_source=sfmc&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20180127_Closeouts&utm_content=product_txt_P5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 https://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/msg/d/gibson-les-paul-60s-tribute/6466021215.html You have to look and take someone with you who knows the guitars. Theres a "LPJ Pro" same area $500. mint also.... "depends what your looking for" Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinch Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Pip: the bass frequencies sound less dense, the overall sound is a little "airier". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Pip: the bass frequencies sound less dense, the overall sound is a little "airier". OK. Pip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 I believe the concept at one point was refered as; "tuning a guitar body's resonant response" Most people find the 9 hole version is in the same tone 'ballpark' as the solid wood body. It is impossible to say without taking the same body and drilling it out, but most seem to think the 9 hole is 'the same' as solid I tend be in that group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinch Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Probably all in my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Probably all in my head. Who knows for sure? IM (limited) X there is no defining 'signature' for either 9-hole nor Solid-body - certainly out of my tiny test group of two 9-hole and two solid-body R-I's - but perhaps there are 'giveaways' to others out there? I've played quite a few hundred LPs over the last ten years or so and the only generalisation which seems to have much mileage (to me) is that concerning the tonal qualities of Chambered LPs. Between Solid and 9-hole? Not to my ears. But, as I said at the start, Who knows for sure? Pip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelT Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 I believe the concept at one point was refered as; "tuning a guitar body's resonant response" Most people find the 9 hole version is in the same tone 'ballpark' as the solid wood body. It is impossible to say without taking the same body and drilling it out, but most seem to think the 9 hole is 'the same' as solid I tend be in that group. My 2017 Tribute (9 hole relief) is almost 9 pounds. The 2017 Standard (ultra modern relief) about 8.4 pounds. I can hear a difference in tone when they're not plugged in. The Tribute seems to have a little more sustain and a "louder" sound. Both have the same neck and freboard. Standard has the nitro finish, Tribute has the satin finish. The Tribute is considerably louder than the Standard when played by themselves without an amp. I have a little more bass resonance from the Tribute through an amp than the Standard, even though the Tribute has P90's and the Standard has Burstbucker-Pros. I really like the 2017 Tributes and they're a step up from the Faded but not much difference in price. The 2017 and 2018 Classics are pretty awesome but twice what you're wanting to spend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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