iluvcrap2000 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 like one of these https://reverb.com/item/7891531-gibson-or-epiphone-control-board-for-les-paul-jimmy-page-mk-2-major-upgrade-with-speed-knobs I've used a prewire aftermarket harness before, but these new pcb boards are new. Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Personally if I were going to replace a PCB board it would be with normal wiring and soldered pots rather than another board. But thats me... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution Six Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 ??? Buy 4 CTS potentiometers and 2 PIO capacitors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 A lot of people are anti-PCB on their guitars, then plug into pedals that have PCBs (even if it's just a tuner) and amps that have huge PCB boards. Weird. Guitars with active electronics which have PCBs have existed for decades and they are fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution Six Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Controls on a guitar work like a preampli, very low current. level control and -6 dB/octave passive crossover. That kind of circuit work very well on a PCB, no problem. For service only this is not the best choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Im not anti PBC at all.. I have one in my 2010 standard and have no thoughts of changing it for anything.. While its all working ok... If it ever stops working I will just put normal pots and stuff in cos its easier.. nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) I this case I personally would not wire a Jimmy Page setup even though I have experience soldering. Just too much going on. Having said that the price is pretty steep. Edited February 17, 2018 by Riffster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard McCoy Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 So why would you swap your original with that aftermarket one? I don't get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) So why would you swap your original with that aftermarket one? I don't get it. Cos the one he is looking at is a Jimmy Page wiring setup one rather than a standard one. Edited February 17, 2018 by Rabs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvcrap2000 Posted February 17, 2018 Author Share Posted February 17, 2018 Cos the one he is looking at is a Jimmy Page wiring setup one rather than a standard one. no I was browsing reverb for parts. Stumbled upon this, thought about upgrading my pcb with a aftermarket harness as I really don't use the true bypass and the pots aren't as sensitive as I'd like. I can't tell the differance with the coil taps and the out of phase isn't as keen. Interesting someone is making a aftermarket pcb with these features, would like to see if it's any good. Looks like some quality work from the pictures and info. The manufacturer says it's a true drop in to Gibson les paul with no mods for it to work so that's a relief. Would like to hear the true differance between the burstbucker coil splits vs the taps. anyway thanks for the opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution Six Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Have a look to 920D, Switchcraft and CTS components : https://www.ebay.com/itm/Gibson-SG-Epiphone-Jimmy-Page-Wiring-Harness-w-Bourns-Push-Pull-Orange-Drop-/112122693879?hash=item1a1b0888f7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvcrap2000 Posted February 18, 2018 Author Share Posted February 18, 2018 Have a look to 920D, Switchcraft and CTS components : https://www.ebay.com/itm/Gibson-SG-Epiphone-Jimmy-Page-Wiring-Harness-w-Bourns-Push-Pull-Orange-Drop-/112122693879?hash=item1a1b0888f7 I've gotten two harnesses from Jersey shore guitar garage, thanks http://jerseyshoreguitargarage.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbluesplayer Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Just know what kind of wiring the harness has. For instance, those Jersey shore harnesses - they said something about how they are supposedly wired 50's style. Fifties style wiring is not very versatile. On some guitars it won't even find the sweet spot. So just know what you're getting into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
american cheez Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) Have a look to 920D, Switchcraft and CTS components : https://www.ebay.com/itm/Gibson-SG-Epiphone-Jimmy-Page-Wiring-Harness-w-Bourns-Push-Pull-Orange-Drop-/112122693879?hash=item1a1b0888f7 that's insanely tidy looking. when i wire stuff, it looks like your hair might, when you wake up drunk Edited February 18, 2018 by american cheez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 that's insanely tidy looking. when i wire stuff, it looks like your hair might, when you wake up drunk This is what mine looks like.. Not too neat.. Not too messy.. Somewhere in between I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 I would use really heavy pots and thick wires to counterweight the neck dive. rct 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvcrap2000 Posted March 11, 2018 Author Share Posted March 11, 2018 ok, had to pull the trigger, ebay had a 20% off deal so I got one of their mk2 JPM2 Black boards, https://reverb.com/shop/scriniaengineering for $148. Very fash shipping(helps if your in same city as well). Got it today and decided to put it in. Read the included instructions to not damage your shafts. The old PCB came out pretty easy and the new one was effortless to put in. Noticed a Huge Difference in tone. The old Coil taps were out(I couldn't hear much of a differance), now their are splits and are more noticable. the old bypass is now a seris/parallel. otherwise think it's more flexible then it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvcrap2000 Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 Do you just need to wire it up and it will have all the JP features? Just plug all the plugs back into it, screw the ground wire down, that's it. Taking the speed knobs off and not yanking the shafts out as per their warning(on original board), was carefully done, otherwise it was fairly easy. no soldering required, no battery pack, done less then 10 minutes(had to adjust the pot nut base height to fit your own top width otherwise). I have to dig my amp out and crack it to see how this thing reacts, running it through amplitube/headphones doesn't give me the full tone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution Six Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Com' on ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddybrown Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 A bit late to this conversation, but I bought one of those Jimmy Page Mark 2 boards from Scrinia Engineering on Reverb, and I'm very pleased with it. The feature I'm most pleased with is the treble bleed. My setup involves cranking the amp and controlling the distortion with the volume control, and before I added the new board there was a limit to how much I could roll it down before it got too muddy to be useful. I couldn't go lower than 7. Now I can take it down to 2 and it's a beautifully bright, perfectly clean tone. That's especially true when I use the coil taps, so now they're much more usable live. I can sound pretty close to a Telecaster if I want to. I also like the series/parallel switch - in series and out of phase gives me a tolerable Brian May/Hubert Sumlin honk/screech, a hotter out of phase sound than the regular in-series Peter Green one. My pickups are magnetically out of phase (I reversed the magnet in the neck pickup long before I bought the circuit board), so middle position with both volume pots down is Peter Green, pop the neck volume for Brian May, or pop the bridge volume for the regular in-phase middle position. Both pots popped is in series and in phase, which is a bit too fat to be usable. So if you want any of those sounds in your arsenal, I'd recommend it. Particularly the treble bleed - once you have that, you'll never want to go back to a regular tone circuit. It's a revelation, I've no idea why all guitars aren't wired that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 hour ago, paddybrown said: ...Particularly the treble bleed - once you have that, you'll never want to go back to a regular tone circuit. It's a revelation, I've no idea why all guitars aren't wired that way. That used to be the first thing we would do with most guitars. I think they've since made better pots and better circuits in general, it isn't as bad as it used to be. I haven't capped a volume in a long time now. rct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lungimsam Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 I’d do two cts volumes and two tonestylers. No caps needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) Is it supposed to make you sound Ike Jimmy Page? Did it for the Poster who got them? I think there is a lot more going on than a PCB Board.. Page's '59 didn't have one or did the Amps he used.... Oh, Then, there's the Fingers.. Edited April 8, 2020 by Larsongs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddybrown Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 It doesn't make me sound like Jimmy Page, but then I'm not trying to, and as you say, it's in the fingers. I bought it because I was looking for more switching options - primarily the treble bleed, because I was frustrated with the treble roll-off when I rolled the volume down, I wanted to keep my coil taps and phase switch, and I hoped the series-parallel switch would give me something akin to Brian May's tone, which it does, satisfactorily enough to me. It's based on the modifications Page made to the electronics on his Les Paul, adding coil taps, a phase switch and a series-parallel switch (although I think this board does that differently than Page did. Page, as far as I know, wanted to be able to play the two coils of one humbucker in parallel rather than in series, whereas this seems to put both humbuckers in series rather than in parallel), using push-pull pots. The Standard up to last year, and the Modern from last year, has the coil taps and phase switch, but loses treble when you roll the volume down. Last year's standard also had a dip switch giving you a treble bleed, but I'm not about to spend two and a half grand on another Les Paul just for that. This thing does all that, plus the series-parallel switch, and it costs about the same as I paid a local tech to upgrade the pots and caps and add a treble bleed and a phase switch to my Epiphone Dot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 I totally get the Treble Bleed reasoning.. As for the other I can understand personal playing style preference mods.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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