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Well here is a overlay of my neck and the whitewood neck' date=' not that it means anything but there is a difference.

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I know they are not perfectly aligned but a small difference . :D :D :D :D

My to say that is a small difference is to say that the volute is on the correct side of the Nut . :D :D

I guess when customer support fails , and the people that pick up the phones for service fails ,

most would give up . Yet , NYS Attorney General , simply said " This advertisment clearly says VOS .

"Why did they change the add ?" " Read Admins untimely response , just an error "

" Well he agrees you can't advertise something then remove Part nor Any of the advertisment that

states what you bought is not what you received , well unless you get a full refund , or it is fraud "

He can't believe a guitar Cost me 3700.00 bucks in the first place and after reading what VOS means

he does believe anyone would be entiltled to a complete refund. The fine Gibson faces is much higher

than the cost of the guitar .

After you sell something as advertised , it must be as advertised . It is not legal to mislead someone ,

purposely , and or " accidently " other than Errors in THE add itself that are promptly reworded including Reference

the the " error ". There are other exceptions that have to do

with newspapers and rewording the add within a certian period of time .

The AG's do the paper work and legal work free for you . I will post my experience .

Finally , a sigh of relief and accountability .

The State in which you reside is where you use the legal rights from .

If not , you use Federal which is about the same just harder to understand , and Federal Law

Trumps State Law .

It was way worth the forty five minutes and to see proffessionals laughing , scratching their head , and

telling me , " IF we did not see all of this ourselves, we would not believe it .

He has heard of GIbson guitars but had no idea how much they could cose . :-k

Fight the VOS to buy time , but a painstaking recreation would also be misleading as he said

the pain I see here is not only the lack VOS , but how painful the Volute looks according to the real volute .

 

I go to sign and bring my documents tomorrow . Packing the guitar as soon as I log off . :D

 

/Cheers

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Oh , I also forgot . I was told to look them up here also .

 

Full link , without highlights , from the BBB reports 12398

 

Sure not many complaints but WHO takes the time to report these ??

HHMM according to some only 10 would /cough , I think 300 should TODAY .

 

VOS anyone ??

Painstaking recreation anyone ??

 

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" Well he agrees you can't advertise something then remove Part nor Any of the advertisment that

states what you bought is not what you received ' date=' well unless you get a full refund , or it is fraud "

He can't believe a guitar Cost me 3700.00 bucks in the first place and after reading what VOS means

he does believe anyone would be entiltled to a complete refund. The fine Gibson faces is much higher

than the cost of the guitar .

After you sell something as advertised , it must be as advertised .

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Just when I thought this couldn't get any more foolish...

 

Look, why didn't you get a full refund from your local store the second you opened the case? My local place gives you 30 DAYS to get a full refund if you're not happy.

 

I know you're making yourself feel good by speaking Truth to Power, but it's lapsed into self-parody at this point.

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somehow i feel sure that Lerxst Lee's conversation with the NYSAG did not include him reiterating these words from his July 12 post:

 

I would return most items over 100 bucks if it was not correct . Imo , Thats my short answer .

If I only have 48 hours to send something back , and only about 2 hours to try it , Don't count on it making it back in time . A nice check of my new guitar " overall " is sufficient for me .

 

a VOS finish or lack thereof would be obvious upon opening the case...you wouldn't even have to take the guitar out to see if the finish/hardware were lightly aged. 48 hours, or even 2 hours, should be plenty of time to look and make a decision about keeping or not keeping an instrument.

 

and considering the thousands upon thousands of guitars we sell every year, i don't think that BBB report looks all that bad.

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Just when I thought this couldn't get any more foolish...

 

Look' date=' why didn't you get a full refund from your local store the second you opened the case? My local place gives you 30 DAYS to get a full refund if you're not happy.

 

I know you're making yourself feel good by speaking Truth to Power, but it's lapsed into self-parody at this point.[/quote']

 

AMEN! This horse has been flogged WAY past death. If you don't like it, sell it & move on to something else.

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I own a 356 and I unfortunately have to sell it to make way for the Axcess. (After buying the Lifeson and now the Axcess, I have to get rid of something and it won't be any of my Les Pauls).

 

Anyway, owing a 356 I would have to say it might be difficult to do. My 356 and several I have played, the neck angle in relationship to the body is in such a way that the tailpiece is clamped down on the body and the bridge is very low. For a stop tailpiece set up this is ideal and these guitars play fantasitcally because of this. I just don't know how well a Floyd would work under these conditions. Also, you only have the center block supporting the bridge. However, remember that Lifeson had a Kahler on his 355, so it might work. However, a Kahler is much different from a floyd rose and what has to be done to the body to accomodate probably would not work.

 

As today is the last day for this thread, I will see you on the Lifeson In Action thread which is where I think we should continue more useful discussions of this guitar.

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A Floyd will not work on it. You would be cutting out most of the center block just for the springs.

With a Kahler you would only need to cut a hole about 3/4" of a inch deep in the top and into the centerblock.

True, but what a concept for an all new guitar from Gibson, a 356 shaped semi-hollow with an enlarged center block around the area that would house the Floyd. That would be sweet.

 

Great idea on the "lifeson in action" thread, Wondo, and let's make the rule right away not one word about the volute! Only constructive posts on the AL-355 doing what it does best, playing and sounding great. BTW just finished re-doing the guitar part on my band's recorded session of Strangiato this morning with AL-124, this guitar continues to amaze me on how good it sounds recorded. Un-friggin-believable tones. I had originally done that session with a 2002 red 355 which I sold to get the AL-355. That guitar sounded great, but this one is better.

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