csbullock Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 I'm new so, forgive me if this has been asked before but, what are the differences between the '58 and '59 Historics other than the flamed top on the '59? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csbullock Posted February 22, 2009 Author Share Posted February 22, 2009 What about the pickups and frets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Plains Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 csbullock, if you're looking at more recent R8s & R9s, that's it. R8 - Plain top, thicker neck. R9 - flame top, slightly thinner neck, should be made of lighter wood. Everything else is the same, specification wise. The neck thickness and weight are just general rules of thumb. You may come across an R8 that's lighter and has a thinner neck, it happens. You can also get a chambered R8 and that has a flame top. Those have a serial number than begins with CR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killyridols Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 If you're referring to the 58 VOS and 59 VOS, about $3000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPDEN Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 If you're referring to the 58 VOS and 59 VOS' date=' about $3000. [/quote'] At dealer retail I don't this $3k is the reality of the spread between the two, from my experience. It's much closer to $2k at the dealer level. And your adding mostly for the maple selection for the most part. I don't really go for the bashing of the R9 if that is what the person wants. Just as an R8 is suitable for someone who feels that is better for them. There's room for both... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csbullock Posted February 24, 2009 Author Share Posted February 24, 2009 $$-wise, I've seen the difference less than $2000.... I was speaking in terms of construction though... Actually, I'm not a big fan of flamed maple (a little too ostentatious and busy for my taste) so, the '58 plain top is more to my liking... I had read somewhere that the '59 had larger frets, in addition to a slimmer neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ufboy73 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I had read somewhere that the '59 had larger frets' date=' in addition to a slimmer neck.[/quote'] i think the original models (i.e. not the reissues but the actual production models in 1959) did tend to have larger frets. i am pretty sure this continued into the 1960 production year. i dont think this feature (along with certain others) has been accurately replicated in the various reissue years that have been put out...but i am no expert and am sure someone here will chime in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Plains Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 I'm sure the older historics had different fret sizes. I'm guessing it was the pre-2003 R8s that had narrower frets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troels Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 I'm new so' date=' forgive me if this has been asked before but, what are the differences between the '58 and '59 Historics other than the flamed top on the '59?[/quote'] "8" and "9" and a lot of $$$$$$$$ ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamed Froggy Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Frets were always the same on every reissue even before 2003. Since 2003 frets have changed but they're still the same on every reissue. They should use small frets on R8 but they don't do that. I don't know why. I know small frets are not so good but when you built a reissue you should use the same frets or not ?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPDEN Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Good points brought up here. It adds to the idea of try before you buy when possible to see what you prefer best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Lockwood Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 The R9 did used to come with larger frets than R7s & 8S I remember reading it in the specs and I have done setups on 3 different R9s over the years for customers and the oldest one definitely had larger frets than the later two. Unfortunately can't remember the build years without rooting through my job record books but they were all 2000 on. Regards Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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