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Can you post the thing which you see as a problem, Larry?

I can't see anything too terrible there at all......eusa_think.gif......

 

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understanding how labor intensive and meticulous the binding work is, a little cosmetic flaw like that, I could live with it since it looks pretty good otherwise

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I think I see what Larry is talking about. Looks like when they were scrapping the binding they chipped bit of the nitro between the binding and wood, just a little bit. It wouldn't be deal breaker for me, that's a sweet looking Lester.

Edited by Big Bill

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I'm no expert - but blaming the manufacturer for something like this on a USED guitar is dicey.

Unless you can prove previous owners weren't responsible.

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I still can't see anything which would give me a headache.

There's a TINY chip(?) which might well have been done in the two years since it was finished and the usual small amount of aniline dye-bleed but other than that?

 

I think it's absolutely stunning. 'Board could be darker, I suppose, but I could live with the guitar just as-is if I was forced to do so...

 

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If you read the description the guitar was damaged and repaired

Ah!

I was looking for a description but didn't see it as it was posted after the factory blurb - which I didn't bother reading.

Well spotted, Black Dog! All Is Explained!

 

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Ah!

I was looking for a description but didn't see it as it was posted after the factory blurb - which I didn't bother reading.

Well spotted, Black Dog! All Is Explained!

 

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That's because I'm way too familiar with the WW website! msp_smile.gif

 

 

 

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I think I'd rather have another Martin acoustic, a used Firebird VII and maybe have enough cash left over for a used Explorer than just the one Les Paul, though.

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I think I'd rather have another Martin acoustic, a used Firebird VII and maybe have enough cash left over for a used Explorer than just the one Les Paul, though.

 

...even more change left for a nice hooker.

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I suppose the former owner removed & replaced the pickguard then? It looks new with that sticker on it.

It says it's a USED 2016 model right in the heading?

 

Also, and I quote from the write up

"What a gorgeous Les Paul! It is in excellent condition with only a professionally repaired ding on the horn. You can see some slight discoloration with the repair but it is smooth to the touch. The guitar includes the original hardshell case and COA."

 

Many people keep that sticker, use a different pick guard or like myself take it off altogether.

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I suppose the former owner removed & replaced the pickguard then? It looks new with that sticker on it.

 

Strangely, I think some people may leave them on. Although, mine was a "cling" type sticker with no adhesive. I saved it and it can be put back on. I'll bet WW has a whole box full of them.

 

 

 

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I think I'd rather have another Martin acoustic, a used Firebird VII and maybe have enough cash left over for a used Explorer than just the one Les Paul, though.

Whilst I do fully understand the "3 Good is preferable to 1 Great" approach I, personally, would go for the 1 Great option.

 

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https://wildwoodguitars.com/product/R960101/standard-historic-1959-les-paul-gloss-2/?cat_id=32

I've just been looking on Wildwood and this is a Custom shop Les Paul. Look at the finishing on this horn. Look how bad the moulding edge is.

It's used and they want $5100. No wonder Gibson are in trouble.

 

Although I have personally seen Custom Shop "moulding" that was botched like that at the factory, the listing states it is used and there was a repair done. $5100 is way too much to pay for a guitar with such a bad repair, but I suppose it beats $6500 new from the factory with improperly scraped binding.

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This is how Gibson guitars get bad internet press, everyone thinks it's QC issues

 

No, Gibson gets a bad rep because they have real QC issues. It seems totally plausible because Gibson and the custom shop produce guitars with improperly scraped binding (among other issues) far too often. That is why it is often first assumed that such issues are factory flaws.

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No offence Larry, but I don't understand why you posted this claiming it's the fault of Gibson when it states that the guitar is both used and had a repair done to the horn?

 

If you intend to buy a guitar to play it then you will mark it in some way eventually anyway, unless you plan to keep them in an air tight display? Even playing them at home will normally result in some sort of minor wear over time and if you're gigging be prepared for much worse [scared]

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They missed a little spot with the scraping but I doubt the models from 59 were done much better.

 

It's been established the guitar is used. However your statement is confounding to me. Why is poor present-day factory QC excusable because back in the day the factory QC might have been poor?

 

Makes no sense to me.

 

Also, the QC in 1959 is demonstrably better. I think you might be equating the oft-touted differences between samples of original 59 bursts with QC problems. The variability of things like neck carve, pickup wind, and body shape are not QC issues.

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