Pin Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 I have away for a few weeks (not actually away but off the site) and have come back to news that Farns has gone. Sad news. I always thought that he could be a tad aggressive at times but always with a valid reason. He was certainly a person who posted interesting things and that is what I valued. I have to say that sometimes I feel the site is a little boring (not intended as a criticism of any poster) in that there is only so much NGD or NAD that I can stand looking at and such themes tend to dominate at times. Of course I can fairly be criticised insofar as I am wide open to the charge "Ok, why don't you post something interesting". And I can't answer that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pappy Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Naaah. You're crazy. I would not even debate that, there is a modicum of truth to that statement, but then again most musicians I know are a little bit tilted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldCowboy Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 I would not even debate that, there is a modicum of truth to that statement, but then again most musicians I know are a little bit tilted. Hell, I thought all of us were just naturally twisted😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L8_4thesh0w Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 I think that once Gibson gets to the point where they're not pissing off their customers and destroying the company there won't be so much arguing about Gibson on here. They're not letting Henry screw up Gibson any more. So that'll keep the customers from arguing with each other. The question of whether Henry is doing a good job has been resolved by people way above our pay scale. Nobody needs to argue about it anymore. Did'ja hear the one about the production manager from the French tampon manufacturer? \:D/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 I see it happening on other Forums too. It seems there are some who never actually start Threads they just to Derail them or Troll them. At some point you gotta realize life's too short & who needs it.... There is no shortage of other Forums... Still you gotta have thick skin & need to be able to take what you dish out.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LP Trad Pro II Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 I see it happening on other Forums too. It seems there are some who never actually start Threads they just to Derail them or Troll them. At some point you gotta realize life's too short & who needs it.... There is no shortage of other Forums... Still you gotta have thick skin & need to be able to take what you dish out.. Right but how many times have there been threads about "How do I decipher my serial number?", "What strings do you like?", "How much is my 2017 LP HP Standard Elite Custom Supreme worth?" ect. You need to inject some humor now and again to keep it lively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigzag Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 I'm addicted to this place, and as many times as I've decided not to come back, I've come back. I'm sure everyone has noticed that the forum doesn't get as much activity these days as it did five or more years ago. The board was never been so busy as it was when we argued and voiced our opinions about any and everything without worrying who got hurt. Gibson has a brand and image to protect, and seems to have had tighter control on what stays posted these days. I never started a political rant, but I've participated in most. I have since come to realize that people have their own psyches based on their years of experience. No one experiences any life changing revelations on an internet forum. I like the boards as they are, but IMO, they are far less interesting than they were, when the characters were far more colorful. I also miss milod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LP Trad Pro II Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Not that I interpreted your post as a drastic complaint, but if one desires for more interesting content, why not start a conversation? Post some topic you do find interesting to make the place a better place to converse or BS, disagree/agree, etc. You never know when you will strike gold All the stuff I really want to post breaks rules 1 - 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigzag Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Not that I interpreted your post as a drastic complaint, but if one desires for more interesting content, why not start a conversation? Post some topic you do find interesting to make the place a better place to converse or BS, disagree/agree, etc. You never know when you will strike gold It's all been done, like the OP said. But I do appreciate the thread you started about guitarists and education. We've had some pretty lively discussions here in the past on that one. And occasionally I'll start a new one on a topic that interests me, or one seeking info. One reason I miss milod is that he could often put a fresh and well thought out spin on the conversation that people responded to. Hard to find people with his perspective anywhere. He could also be political in a respectful way. Many political threads, or threads discussing issues of the day, have been deleted or locked where the members were civil, because he was... but still against the rules. Too much passion and outrage in politics today. I blame the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karloff Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 boy, thats a lot of words ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karloff Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 +1, I was bored at work, so I spent more time than I liked on this lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdgm Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 FWIW Farns told me he was banned. And it was entirely his own fault TBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digger Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 I’ve been on these sites for quite a while and if you think we are losing members now, all I can say is you should have seen it before! Mass walk outs! (me included) Apart from that it’s just the cut and thrust of life and to be expected. I do regret losing the people mentioned but as others have said ultimately you need a thick skin to dwell on internet forums. Don’t take offence, work things out via PM, not on the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 The loss of members in a forum is inevitable. We get new ones as well - it's just The Internet Version of the Cycle of Life. We lost Farnsbarns, and FZFan but LP Trad Pro II appeared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jannusguy2 Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 I myself get fed up of trying to post a photo. It's the only forum that you can't download straight from your computer I know of. This ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Scales Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 Quick bit of perspective fwiw from one who now just has a quick look (when/if I think about it) after 5 years of apparently having 1.5 or so posts each day... There seems to be a theme here that people leave because of trolls. Maybe a few new people are quickly discouraged but I don't think trolling has much to do with it. I actually enjoyed most trolls (not the 'Epiphone sux' &$@?'s, but those who put some thought into their bait) - they were/are a challenge which I quite enjoyed. I think the majority of those who stay a few years then leave might be more like me - you just get bored of the same conversations after so many times and can predict who wrote a post without looking at the avatar, who will respond, and what they will say, so it loses its interest. Which is not to say you guys are boring and predictable per se, more that over time things repeat and it grates a little - like when you're going to the same pub and hearing the same old stories from the same old blokes every few months. One thing I came to not enjoy over the years is the way new people with 'interesting' counter views were gently (sometimes less so) 'run out of town' by some who like the status quo. It's symptomatic of wider society these day, and whilst I'm not advocating a return to the seventies where men who had a disagreement just went out the back and punched on to settle it, or fat kids and read heads got picked on at school daily, but society seems to be gently prodding us towards a self-induced requirement for not tolerating any rocking of boats (less we proles start to question things?). Anyhoo, main point is don't attribute departures to trolls - you are doing a disservice to the intellect of the departed and crediting trolls where it's not due. Cold turkey has been interesting, but after a month or two I find a quick scan every so often and only reply if it's a subject of true interest has actually come pretty easily - this and the Covers Band threads being the sum total as far as I can recall. Perhaps things'll pick up after the northern summer. Best to you all! (ps hey Tman-that album done yet mate?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 " Which is not to say you guys are boring and predictable per se, more that over time things repeat and it grates a little - like when you're going to the same pub and hearing the same old stories from the same old blokes every few months." The past Christmas, my middle son gave me two small bags of edible dried crickets. I forget the flavor. Maybe bacon and jalapeno? It was sort of a "I dare you to eat these" joke. To his surprise, and the dismay of the 17 family members there - I began eating them. One by one, of course. to draw out the fun. But, the piece de resistance was when my 11 year old granddaughter stepped up to the plate (so to speak) and ate one along with me ! The other 7 grandchildren gagged. Her mother was mad at her father for daring someone she suspected was a little off. But, I think she was secretly pleased to find she was right. That was my present to her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek R Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 To be honest,This is the only forum i post on but I don’t post regular. When you start a post if you’re not a regular poster you don’t get the same amount of people looking at your post as others,the last post I done was tongue in cheek but that didn’t come across in written word as I thought it would so what i was trying to put across didn’t generate the response I thought the post would. The point I’m trying to make is when people like me try to generate a new subject into the forum it gets lost in the same old same old of the forum,because of this i don’t post or get more involved . Maybe what I’m posting isn’t interesting enough for people to start a conversation about,but when you try to start a new thread in the forum if you’re not part of the “clique “so to speak your up against it. Just my ramblings on a drunken Saturday night. Cheers Derek r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly campbell Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 I too only post on this frum I belong to a couple others but I do not go there often and do not post on it. I always liked the people here and the civility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 ...When you start a post if you're not a regular poster you don't get the same amount of people looking at your post as others...The point I'm trying to make is when people like me try to generate a new subject into the forum it gets lost in the same old same old of the forum,because of this i don't post or get more involved... ...when you try to start a new thread in the forum if you're not part of the "clique "so to speak your up against it... You raise some interesting and very valid observations, Derek. The main issue in all three points mentioned above (as I see it FWIW) is that it takes a while for members to become 'known' as individuals. By this I mean once a new member has posted quite a few times - and it helps if they post quite a few times in a short space of time - the existing members get an understanding of where the 'newbie' is coming from in terms of their experience, likes/dislikes and, most importantly perhaps, their sense of humour. Once the existing members have a better idea of someone's 'personality' (for want of a better word) the forumites will probably be more forthcoming. When I first joined I encountered what I thought was a certain amount of hostility and ridicule from several members who were clearly the leading lights in the dominant clique of the day. It took me a while to realise that I was just being gently ragged by the humourists and not being attacked for any views I might have expressed. Once I got the hang of things I discovered that the main ringleaders were actually some of the funniest, most knowledgeable and most experienced members around. I don't start many threads myself and those which I do start tend to have a "niche market limited appeal" therefore my expectations as far as 'number of replies' are concerned tend to be proportionally small but the information I pick up from others and the fun I have here is not to be missed. I hope you stick around and you can begin to enjoy the place a bit more to your liking in future. Pip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinch Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 The thing with "trolling" is that it can be funny if it's done for shock value very, very occasionally. Becoming/being an actual troll is a whole 'nother thing. At least that's the way I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinch Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 To be honest,This is the only forum i post on but I don’t post regular. When you start a post if you’re not a regular poster you don’t get the same amount of people looking at your post as others,the last post I done was tongue in cheek but that didn’t come across in written word as I thought it would so what i was trying to put across didn’t generate the response I thought the post would. The point I’m trying to make is when people like me try to generate a new subject into the forum it gets lost in the same old same old of the forum,because of this i don’t post or get more involved . Maybe what I’m posting isn’t interesting enough for people to start a conversation about,but when you try to start a new thread in the forum if you’re not part of the “clique “so to speak your up against it. Just my ramblings on a drunken Saturday night. Cheers Derek r Like Pip says, it takes a while. There's also the fact that if you look at the introductions forum, you'll get new ones daily who submit that one post, maybe with a question, then bugger off forever. Just stick with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flight959 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 I've been a member here for many years. There have been lots of people coming and going as of a result of one spat or another. It happens. Away from the forum I have made some solid friends, good people. I rarely visit here anymore. Regards S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 When I first joined (10+ years ago), I stayed in the Epiphone Forum, more often, because it was (frankly) friendlier! The Gibson version, then, was unmonitored, and a "mine field," of condescension, and even out right hostility. But, thankfully, later it was monitored by some good members, who were less tolerant of hostility, and steered it into more the forum it is now. From an observer's point of view, some of hostility and arguments that resulted were both unsettling, epic, and (often) funny, at the same time. As the forum changed, to a more friendly version, there was an open exodus, voluntary or otherwise, of the seriously cliquish, and hostile members. The "bullies," if you want to call them that. After they left, the membership grew, quite a bit! And, more and more folks from the Epi forum, and other's, started contributing to the Gibson forum, as well. "Active" membership tends to increase and decrease, back and forth, over time. Some stay members, but don't (as often) contribute, like they used to. Free time varies, and interests change. I don't post nearly as much as I used to, but...on occasion, I enjoy doing so, and getting the feedback, and helpful information, as well. I just seem to have too many other things, currently, going on. But, hang in there! It's (still) a good forum! Cheers, CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek R Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Ok not as drunk as I was when I posted the other night but going by the replies to just hang in there and give it time,I have been a member here for a good few years now and it’s still the same old same old subjects that get replies, tone woods,tuners ,string gauges,you know the same old same old. Why should i waste my time writing up a post and putting it up here for it to get 15 views and 2 replies and then bumped down the page where no one looks,when other more seasoned posters write the same old same old posts and they run for pages. As i said maybe the subject I’m posting about isn’t interesting enough for the clientele on here to converse about but when you try diverse the conversations and posts and you get no or very little feedback and then look at what does get feedback,why bother,if i do post something it will normally be about something to do with guitars or music,it may not be the most inspiring of subjects but i am not a very good guitar player and I don’t have the greatest of knowledge of guitars and giggin,so if I post something it will be relevant enough to guitars or music that it should in my opinion be fairly accessible to be discussed in the forum. I log into Gibson fairly regularly and enjoy going through the different sections of the forum,but because of the clique like nature of the members i refrain from replying in many of the sections which intrest me because I just feel I don’t have enough knowledge or experience in these areas and as stated the clique like nature doesn’t sit good with me. I love my Gibson electric guitars,it’s the only electric guitars I own and I play them the best I can,it may not be the best you’ve ever heard but to me it’s the best I can do,wether it’s good enough for this forum or not you’ll never know because I would never post my playing on here to be scrutinised by people on the internet,going by my experience on this forum. Cheers Derek r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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