IanHenry Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 There always seems to be a shortage of early Peter Green concert film, but I found this French TV show to be amongst the best available. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAlZMZN7dw8 Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Great to see. I hadn't even heard that 1st song before, and I have a ton of old Mac stuff. Thanks for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutha Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 I`ve that bookmarked a while on the tube, play it regularly, I much prefer the early stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Yes, nice to see it. It has been posted before but not for quite a while so it's about high time it got out for an airing. I think there must be more clips from that performance out there somewhere because I'm (almost!) positive I've seen at least two other tracks from the same show where PG gets to play much more of the 'lead break' stuff. Pip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 While I liked early Fleetwood Mac, were they really such a "Great" inspiring "Blues Band?" Taking nothing away from Peter Green's abilities. Were they really better, or as good as The Yardbirds, Animals, Blodwyn Pig, John Mayall and the Bluesbrakers (regardless of "lead guitar" player), or other "blues" based bands, from the UK, at that time??? CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 ...were they really such a "Great" inspiring "Blues Band?"... Yes. ...Were they really better, or as good as The Yardbirds... Yes. ...Animals... Yes. ...Blodwyn Pig... Yes. ...John Mayall and the Bluesbreakers... PG took over from Eric in the Bluesbreakers - as you already know - and (IMO) they were still just as good if not even better so shall we call that "quits."? ...or other "blues" based bands, from the UK, at that time??? .. Yes. Pip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanHenry Posted June 19, 2018 Author Share Posted June 19, 2018 While I liked early Fleetwood Mac, were they really such a "Great" inspiring "Blues Band?" Taking nothing away from Peter Green's abilities. Were they really better, or as good as The Yardbirds, Animals, Blodwyn Pig, John Mayall and the Bluesbrakers (regardless of "lead guitar" player), or other "blues" based bands, from the UK, at that time??? CB Charlie, which was the best band is of course subjective, but to get things into perspective Fleetwood Mac were outselling the Beatles at that time but as I'm sure is the case success isn't necessarily dependent on who'e the best, if you look at the Beatles and compare them with the Kinks, I think the Kinks are very much underrated. Pippy, it's always possible that I've posted this before, it could be brain fade on my part. I'd put it down to age but my wife say's I've always been like that! Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 ...Pippy, it's always possible that I've posted this before, it could be brain fade on my part. I'd put it down to age but my wife say's I've always been like that!... The last time I saw it was a long time ago. It might well have been Jimi Mac who posted it here as he was such a huge fan of Danny Kirwan. For those who don't know much PG stuff before the Mac was formed here he is in sublime form (and in a very Beano-Claptonesque frame of mind) having just stepped into the latter's shoes with the Bluesbreakers; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hm_GtZ-1Io Pip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valeriy Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 This is of course interesting band. Singer-women , their songs are also very beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. PG took over from Eric in the Bluesbreakers - as you already know - and (IMO) they were still just as good if not even better so shall we call that "quits."? Yes. Pip. OK, I'll take your word on that! And, in the case of John Mayall...he's always tended to sound the same, regardless of guitarist. And, I don't mean that in any negative sense, at all. I guess I (for whatever reason) don't see the early "Mac" as appreciably different, therefore more influential, than those bands I mentioned, already. But, again...they're all Good/Great, in their own way. As to outselling The Beatles...so did Engelbert Humperdinck, at one point! :D And, The Beatles weren't a "Blues Band," as well. Fleetwood Mac, really came into their own, with Lindsey, Christine, and Stevie. Of course, they were a totally different kind/style of band, with those additions. It's all Good! CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Yes, it is, CB! As usual you bring up a few interesting points. ...in the case of John Mayall...he's always tended to sound the same, regardless of guitarist... PG had already stepped in for Clapton in the Bluesbreakers to cover for EC before Slowhand left for good and the position with Mayall became 'solid'. Essentially his job was to emulate Clapton so as to keep the Mayall fanbase happy. It's not surprising (to me) he tried to show he could do a convincing 'Clapton' to counter the invariable response from the 'Clapton is God' crowd. Just as Clapton had done, PG only stayed with Mayall for a year before leaving - taking Mayall's drummer and bassist (Mick Fleetwood and John McVie) in the process - and Green's place was taken by the youthful Mick Taylor who, eerily enough, had also stood in for an AWOL Clapton for the second set of a Mayall gig! Having 3/4 of the Bluesbreakers as a starting point it's hardly a shock that the early PGFM sounded like the 'mother-band'. After he formed PGFM he chose to go down a few different roads. There was the return to more purist blues (whereas EC was pushing the electric-blues envelope with Cream). He did some latin-flavoured stuff such as 'Black Magic Woman'; some tuneful ballads such as 'Man of the World' and considerably heavier rock-blues such as 'The Green Manalishi'. I didn't think 'influential' was ever mentioned (although "inspiring" was) but just have a listen to this track by Peter B's Looners featuring a 19-year-old Green and also Mick Fleetwood (!) from back in 1966 - a year before he joined Mayall. Remind you of a certain Devadip Carlos Santana, perhaps?.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn7AQFBVkjE One thing's for sure; he was rarely boring! Pip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Yes, it is, CB! As usual you bring up a few interesting points. PG had already stepped in for Clapton in the Bluesbreakers to cover for EC before Slowhand left for good and the position with Mayall became 'solid'. Essentially his job was to emulate Clapton so as to keep the Mayall fanbase happy. It's not surprising (to me) he tried to show he could do a convincing 'Clapton' to counter the invariable response from the 'Clapton is God' crowd. Just as Clapton had done, PG only stayed with Mayall for a year before leaving - taking Mayall's drummer and bassist (Mick Fleetwood and John McVie) in the process - and Green's place was taken by the youthful Mick Taylor who, eerily enough, had also stood in for an AWOL Clapton for the second set of a Mayall gig! Having 3/4 of the Bluesbreakers as a starting point it's hardly a shock that the early PGFM sounded like the 'mother-band'. After he formed PGFM he chose to go down a few different roads. There was the return to more purist blues (whereas EC was pushing the electric-blues envelope with Cream). He did some latin-flavoured stuff such as 'Black Magic Woman'; some tuneful ballads such as 'Man of the World' and considerably heavier rock-blues such as 'The Green Manalishi'. I didn't think 'influential' was ever mentioned (although "inspiring" was) but just have a listen to this track by Peter B's Looners featuring a 19-year-old Green and also Mick Fleetwood (!) from back in 1966 - a year before he joined Mayall. Remind you of a certain Devadip Carlos Santana, perhaps?.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn7AQFBVkjE One thing's for sure; he was rarely boring! Pip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Always wondered WHY Mayall didn't have Peter Green in the lineup, for his 70th Birthday bash/DVD! EC and Mick Taylor (and other's) were all there. Was Peter not invited, or maybe he was, but chose not to attend, or couldn't? CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanHenry Posted June 20, 2018 Author Share Posted June 20, 2018 CB, it's quite possible Peter wasn't in the right place (mentally) to attend. It's also worth mentioning what BB King said about Peter "He has the sweetest tone I ever heard; he was the only one who gave me the cold sweats". Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 CB, it's quite possible Peter wasn't in the right place (mentally) to attend. It's also worth mentioning what BB King said about Peter "He has the sweetest tone I ever heard; he was the only one who gave me the cold sweats". Ian Could be, Ian! I'd never argue with BB, either, on that assessment! CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4Hayden Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 where 's STEVIE NICKS ? 4H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Wasn't he the guitar-tech / lighting engineer / roadie? Pip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn7AQFBVkjE Thanks for posting this. That sounds so sweet Wasn't he the guitar-tech / lighting engineer / roadie? Pip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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