Cougar Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 The electronics in my Epiphone Lennon signature EJ-160E have never been great. But I plugged her in a couple days ago and all I got was one big buzz (and not in a good way!). That can probably be fixed, but I doubt the mag pickup system will ever be great. I played the guitar acoustically earlier today, and man, it sounded quite good! It's a great little guitar. So I was thinking about having the existing wiring pulled out of there and getting a K&K pure mini put in. It's already got the hole for the jack. Of course the volume and tone knobs would then be non functional, but I can live with that. Those connections could very well be the buzz problem anyway. What do y'all think? Any different recommendations? I've heard good things about the pure mini..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 the KK has it's advantages, but I'm not sure how they do with feedback in hostile environments. Fishman Infinity all the way home. sounds good, small foot print for hidden controls, and decent to maybe REAL good battery life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Why not get a Gibson P90 & the correct Gibson Volume & Tone Controls, Wiring & Jack? It would be, essentially, a J-160E. It wouldn't be that expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 Why not get a Gibson P90 & the correct Gibson Volume & Tone Controls, Wiring & Jack? It would be, essentially, a J-160E. It wouldn't be that expensive. That's not a bad idea. After a little research, though, I don't think I'd be real thrilled with that single coil P90 sound. Apparently the Beatles weren't either, and they started playing their J160E into a mic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 ahh, no,, as it would kind a sound like A$$.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 That's not a bad idea. After a little research, though, I don't think I'd be real thrilled with that single coil P90 sound. Apparently the Beatles weren't either, and they started playing their J160E into a mic. The Plywood Top Lennon Spec J-160E sounds pretty bad. It needs/needed all the help it can/could get. Your Asian model is more likely a Solid Top & will sound better. Not as good as a Solid Top Gibson though. P90's sound great in all kinds of Guitars including J-160E's. I own a 2000 Gibson Bozeman Masterbilt Solid Top J-160E. I like it as much as my 1975 Martin D-35. I Gig regularly with my J-160E thru my Vox or Fender amps & it sounds great. The Beatles used Telefunkens. Why wouldn't they Mic their Guitars with them? Doesn't get any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted August 24, 2018 Author Share Posted August 24, 2018 Your Asian model is more likely a Solid Top & will sound better.... Right, it's a solid top and sounds pretty good. So you're talking about something like this? ==> link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Right, it's a solid top and sounds pretty good. So you're talking about something like this? ==> link That appears to be Asian? If you want it to sound more like a real Gibson J-160E go with USA Spec. Pups, wiring etc. Even having just a USA Gibson P90 would make a difference. When I record with my Gibson J-160E I'll run it thru my Vox or Fender (sometimes both) with SM58's & still Mic the Guitar with my Neumann Mic. I'll do the same with my Vintage Martin D-35. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 That appears to be Asian? If you want it to sound more like a real Gibson J-160E go with USA Spec. Pups, wiring etc. Even having just a USA Gibson P90 would make a difference. When I record with my Gibson J-160E I'll run it thru my Vox or Fender (sometimes both) with SM58's & still Mic the Guitar with my Neumann Mic. I'll do the same with my Vintage Martin D-35. What Neumann do you have? I have a pair of KM184s and they are incredible for acoustic IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 What Neumann do you have? I have a pair of KM184s and they are incredible for acoustic IMO I have the TLM49 & I run it thru a Vintech 273 Pre-Amp... Sounds very close to a Vintage M49 & Neve 1073 Pre Amp... Great Set! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 I have the TLM49 & I run it thru a Vintech 273 Pre-Amp... Sounds very close to a Vintage M49 & Neve 1073 Pre Amp... Great Set! That’s badass! Have you tried recording drums with that setup before? I’ve been thinking of getting a UA LA-610 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 ...If you want it to sound more like a real Gibson J-160E go with USA Spec. Pups, wiring etc..... When I record with my Gibson J-160E I'll run it thru my Vox or Fender (sometimes both) with SM58's & still Mic the Guitar with my Neumann Mic. I'll do the same with my Vintage Martin D-35. Man, you guys are way beyond my paltry needs. I'm far from a connoisseur, and especially not interested in dropping a lot of bucks on this $400-500 Epiphone. I'm glad you've enjoyed the discussion , but I'm just going to go with a Baggs Element. Some like 'em, some don't. I'm not gigging, and I'm just not that picky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 That’s badass! Have you tried recording drums with that setup before? I’ve been thinking of getting a UA LA-610 The UA sounds cool.. I haven't yet. I should. I record with 3 different Drummers mainly & they have their own Mic's they like to use. I did buy a Set of Drum Mic's made by CAD. It has 7-8 Mic's but haven't tried them yet. Note to the OP. I agree it doesn't make sense to sink as much as the Guitar cost. Some guys do though.. That said, just adding a USA Gibson P90 would give it a great J-160E sound. Baggs makes good Pickups too.. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted August 28, 2018 Author Share Posted August 28, 2018 Note to the OP. I agree it doesn't make sense to sink as much as the Guitar cost. Some guys do though.. That said, just adding a USA Gibson P90 would give it a great J-160E sound. Baggs makes good Pickups too.. Good luck! Thanks, Larsongs. I appreciate all the input. My luthier's work is three weeks out, so it'll be awhile before I get it back and plug 'er in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 The UA sounds cool.. I haven't yet. I should. I record with 3 different Drummers mainly & they have their own Mic's they like to use. I did buy a Set of Drum Mic's made by CAD. It has 7-8 Mic's but haven't tried them yet. Note to the OP. I agree it doesn't make sense to sink as much as the Guitar cost. Some guys do though.. That said, just adding a USA Gibson P90 would give it a great J-160E sound. Baggs makes good Pickups too.. Good luck! Apparently a lot of people like the CAD M179 on toms Depending on the room and what kind of sound you’re going for I bet the TLM49 would sound great in front of the kit with another mic on the kick I love recording drums. I feel like that is where I do the most experimenting in my studio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsongs Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Apparently a lot of people like the CAD M179 on toms Depending on the room and what kind of sound you’re going for I bet the TLM49 would sound great in front of the kit with another mic on the kick I love recording drums. I feel like that is where I do the most experimenting in my studio I have an older Cad Equitek E-200 (Made in USA) Mic. that is also a really great Mic. I use that quite a bit too with xlnt results. I could use you in my Studio to Mic Drums!!! LOL I use a simple methods.. Sometime just 3 Mics. Kick, Snare & 1 Overhead.. Unlike on of my Drummers I work with. In his Studio he has about 20 Mics on his DW'S... I might be exagerrating but not by much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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