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The electronics in my Epiphone Lennon signature EJ-160E have never been great. But I plugged her in a couple days ago and all I got was one big buzz (and not in a good way!). That can probably be fixed, but I doubt the mag pickup system will ever be great. I played the guitar acoustically earlier today, and man, it sounded quite good! It's a great little guitar.

 

So I was thinking about having the existing wiring pulled out of there and getting a K&K pure mini put in. It's already got the hole for the jack. Of course the volume and tone knobs would then be non functional, but I can live with that. Those connections could very well be the buzz problem anyway.

 

What do y'all think? Any different recommendations? I've heard good things about the pure mini.....

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Why not get a Gibson P90 & the correct Gibson Volume & Tone Controls, Wiring & Jack? It would be, essentially, a J-160E. It wouldn't be that expensive.

That's not a bad idea. After a little research, though, I don't think I'd be real thrilled with that single coil P90 sound. Apparently the Beatles weren't either, and they started playing their J160E into a mic.

 

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That's not a bad idea. After a little research, though, I don't think I'd be real thrilled with that single coil P90 sound. Apparently the Beatles weren't either, and they started playing their J160E into a mic.

 

The Plywood Top Lennon Spec J-160E sounds pretty bad. It needs/needed all the help it can/could get.

 

Your Asian model is more likely a Solid Top & will sound better. Not as good as a Solid Top Gibson though. P90's sound great in all kinds of Guitars including J-160E's.

 

I own a 2000 Gibson Bozeman Masterbilt Solid Top J-160E. I like it as much as my 1975 Martin D-35. I Gig regularly with my J-160E thru my Vox or Fender amps & it sounds great.

 

The Beatles used Telefunkens. Why wouldn't they Mic their Guitars with them? Doesn't get any better.

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Right, it's a solid top and sounds pretty good.

 

So you're talking about something like this? ==> link

 

That appears to be Asian?

 

If you want it to sound more like a real Gibson J-160E go with USA Spec. Pups, wiring etc.

 

Even having just a USA Gibson P90 would make a difference.

 

When I record with my Gibson J-160E I'll run it thru my Vox or Fender (sometimes both) with SM58's & still Mic the Guitar with my Neumann Mic. I'll do the same with my Vintage Martin D-35.

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That appears to be Asian?

 

If you want it to sound more like a real Gibson J-160E go with USA Spec. Pups, wiring etc.

 

Even having just a USA Gibson P90 would make a difference.

 

When I record with my Gibson J-160E I'll run it thru my Vox or Fender (sometimes both) with SM58's & still Mic the Guitar with my Neumann Mic. I'll do the same with my Vintage Martin D-35.

What Neumann do you have? I have a pair of KM184s and they are incredible for acoustic IMO

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...If you want it to sound more like a real Gibson J-160E go with USA Spec. Pups, wiring etc..... When I record with my Gibson J-160E I'll run it thru my Vox or Fender (sometimes both) with SM58's & still Mic the Guitar with my Neumann Mic. I'll do the same with my Vintage Martin D-35.

Man, you guys are way beyond my paltry needs. I'm far from a connoisseur, and especially not interested in dropping a lot of bucks on this $400-500 Epiphone. I'm glad you've enjoyed the discussion msp_smile.gif, but I'm just going to go with a Baggs Element. Some like 'em, some don't. I'm not gigging, and I'm just not that picky.

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That’s badass! Have you tried recording drums with that setup before?

 

I’ve been thinking of getting a UA LA-610

 

The UA sounds cool..

 

I haven't yet. I should. I record with 3 different Drummers mainly & they have their own Mic's they like to use. I did buy a Set of Drum Mic's made by CAD. It has 7-8 Mic's but haven't tried them yet.

 

Note to the OP. I agree it doesn't make sense to sink as much as the Guitar cost. Some guys do though.. That said, just adding a USA Gibson P90 would give it a great J-160E sound. Baggs makes good Pickups too.. Good luck!

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Note to the OP. I agree it doesn't make sense to sink as much as the Guitar cost. Some guys do though.. That said, just adding a USA Gibson P90 would give it a great J-160E sound. Baggs makes good Pickups too.. Good luck!

Thanks, Larsongs. I appreciate all the input. My luthier's work is three weeks out, so it'll be awhile before I get it back and plug 'er in.

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The UA sounds cool..

 

I haven't yet. I should. I record with 3 different Drummers mainly & they have their own Mic's they like to use. I did buy a Set of Drum Mic's made by CAD. It has 7-8 Mic's but haven't tried them yet.

 

Note to the OP. I agree it doesn't make sense to sink as much as the Guitar cost. Some guys do though.. That said, just adding a USA Gibson P90 would give it a great J-160E sound. Baggs makes good Pickups too.. Good luck!

Apparently a lot of people like the CAD M179 on toms

 

Depending on the room and what kind of sound you’re going for I bet the TLM49 would sound great in front of the kit with another mic on the kick

 

I love recording drums. I feel like that is where I do the most experimenting in my studio

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Apparently a lot of people like the CAD M179 on toms

 

Depending on the room and what kind of sound you’re going for I bet the TLM49 would sound great in front of the kit with another mic on the kick

 

I love recording drums. I feel like that is where I do the most experimenting in my studio

 

I have an older Cad Equitek E-200 (Made in USA) Mic. that is also a really great Mic. I use that quite a bit too with xlnt results.

 

I could use you in my Studio to Mic Drums!!! LOL I use a simple methods.. Sometime just 3 Mics. Kick, Snare & 1 Overhead.. Unlike on of my Drummers I work with. In his Studio he has about 20 Mics on his DW'S... I might be exagerrating but not by much!

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