Mike_L Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Hello All, I'm looking to sell my 2014 ES-355. The neck cracked (small) during shipping, which I had the professionally repaired in Osaka ( where I was living at the time). The guitar is in excellent condition with light player wear. There is no hint of it ever having a cracked neck, nor the repair performed. It would be easy to just list without mention of the repair, but I won't allow myself to do so. My question to you all is how much depreciation should I mark down my selling price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 I would say the drop dead lowest price you'll take for your instrument minus an additional $300. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Sorry to say but once you advertise it as cracked neck pro repaired, 99% of potential buyers will immediately go back to looking at that guitar without a cracked neck pro repaired. The 1% not bothered by it aren't bothered by it because they buy such guitars super duper cheap. To be fair, "depreciation" is normal wear and tear over the course of a financing period. This guitar is, well, broken, not depreciated. Good luck with it. It is good of you to advertise it as it is, hopefully someone that wants one and doesn't mind will come along quickly. rct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NighthawkChris Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 If you list it and be honest about its condition, see what you’ll get back. If you’re happy with the offer then there you go, guitar sold. Show pictures and all that. A broken guitar isn’t worth a lot of people’s time so if they buy it and it cracks again they’d be pretty mad I think. Someone buying that has to know the risk they’re taking I guess. Taking your word on professionally repaired and willing to fork over something you like in terms of compensation. Overall if you’re comfortable selling it as a repaired guitar that’s worth the price give it a shot and see what you come up with. Do some research on the prices of the same guitar of different conditions and see what will attract a buyer at the right price. Good luck with everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFord Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 I remember this guitar - the belly flop drop. I'd take a look at what they're selling for and figure 60% of that would be realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelDeVille Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 I remember this guitar - the belly flop drop. I'd take a look at what they're selling for and figure 60% of that would be realistic. I’d be one of the 1% that isn’t scared off by a repair, but I’d want a deal. Even 60% would still be out of my price range... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bill Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 We are assuming it was a small crack in the wood. Was it a crack just in the finish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFord Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 No, it was not a finish crack. It was this kind: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFord Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 This was a Martin D28 which showed up in an incredibly poorly packed, home made cardboard "box". The guy took a couple of boxes, broke them down and wrapped them around the case. When I changed the strings the neck tension was released and this crack appeared. I wrote to both Martin and to one of their old service managers and they both said the same thing: The guitar dropped from a height and did a belly flop, do NOT loosen the strings as the head stock will snap off as the string tension is what's holding it together and yes, it can be repaired by loosening the strings a little bit at a time and injecting glue into the crack and then tightening the strings to clamp it together. eBay backed me up, I got a refund and purchased an HD-28V in person so there was a happy ending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelDeVille Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 No, it was not a finish crack. It was this kind: That’s not a bad crack in my book, if the repair can’t be seen easily I’d think it wouldn’t be much of a price drop. 10-20%??? But I’m only an internet expert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFord Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 It really sucked with that D28 as it was a beautiful guitar. It sounded great and played really easily. I was assured that the repair would be good as new BUT I don't want a repaired guitar if I can help it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bill Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 IMHO, I think you would get more out of it by keeping it. I don't know your reasons for selling it, but your feelings most likely will change and wish you never did. A 335 is an awesome guitar to have in your arsenal, and I would think the guitar is worth more to you than what you could sell it for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbluesplayer Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Some pictures would really help. The rule of thumb around here seems to be that a Gibson with a headstock/neck break of any kind reduces the value by about a third to a half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bill Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Some pictures would really help. The rule of thumb around here seems to be that a Gibson with a headstock/neck break of any kind reduces the value by about a third to a half. Agree 100% That's why I suggest on keeping it and enjoying it for many happy years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hall Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Yea, the suggestion to keep and enjoy is my first thought also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_L Posted April 18, 2019 Author Share Posted April 18, 2019 I remember this guitar - the belly flop drop. I'd take a look at what they're selling for and figure 60% of that would be realistic. Yep,THAT -355 ;). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_L Posted April 18, 2019 Author Share Posted April 18, 2019 IMHO, I think you would get more out of it by keeping it. I don't know your reasons for selling it, but your feelings most likely will change and wish you never did. A 335 is an awesome guitar to have in your arsenal, and I would think the guitar is worth more to you than what you could sell it for. I will probably just hang on to it and donate to a music school when I'm gone. There's nothing wrong with it but I stumbled across a sweet deal on a 2009 -355 w/Bigsby. I don't need two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_L Posted April 18, 2019 Author Share Posted April 18, 2019 Some pictures would really help. The rule of thumb around here seems to be that a Gibson with a headstock/neck break of any kind reduces the value by about a third to a half. I can't find the repair thread with all the pics. I'll try to repost later today. Similar cracks and exact scenario described with the Martin in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_L Posted April 18, 2019 Author Share Posted April 18, 2019 As soon as I saw the pic I new it was a D-28 and died a little inside. Did not know you went through such an ordeal to get your HD-28V. Yep the 335 is a broken guitar like rct said. I would run, but a select few will not. So do not expect to get anything close to what you want for it. Not sure if you can go back and get restitution from whoever shipped it. You were moving to Osaka at the time. You military? Retired AF working for an airline. Based in Guam and commuted from Osaka. Living in 'Vegas and commuting to San Francisco now; and looking forward to moving back to Japan after retirement #2 \:D/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bill Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Retired AF working for an airline. Based in Guam and commuted from Osaka. Living in 'Vegas and commuting to San Francisco now; and looking forward to moving back to Japan after retirement #2 \:D/ I was Air Force too. Osaka's not a U.S. base is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hall Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Retired AF working for an airline. Based in Guam and commuted from Osaka. Living in 'Vegas and commuting to San Francisco now; and looking forward to moving back to Japan after retirement #2 \:D/ Outstanding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFord Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 If you can't sell it for something reasonable, why not stick a Bigsby on the one that you have? The neck break decreased the value so that would make it an ideal candidate for modification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_L Posted April 19, 2019 Author Share Posted April 19, 2019 I was Air Force too. Osaka's not a U.S. base is it? No AF Base there. Iwakuni is the closest base (Marines). Lived in Osaka as a civilian by choice with my Japanese wife ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_L Posted April 19, 2019 Author Share Posted April 19, 2019 If you can't sell it for something reasonable, why not stick a Bigsby on the one that you have? The neck break decreased the value so that would make it an ideal candidate for modification. Hmmmm..... you may be onto something there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bill Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 I was in the Navy and stationed in Yokosuka from '89 - '91. I would go back to Japan in half a heartbeat. I used to fly into Japan a lot, even Iwakuni as Mike mentioned. I agree, I would love to go back. (Banana Lady) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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