pippy Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Dub-T-123 said: I saw that and was shocked at the super high markup, so I had to look up your import tax rate to try and figure out how that’s possible. Looks like 20%?... Goods such as a guitar being brought into the UK are not only subjected to a 20% mark-up for VAT (Value Added Tax) but also a levy for 'Customs Duty'. This is a strange one as the amount which will be charged varies with both value (Under £135; Gifts with a value between £135 and £630; other goods above £135) and country of origin. The sums involved also vary if insurance and postage rates are involved. The total payable can be quite scarily high compared with original price. Here's one example; Goods value: £5000 (purchased from outside of EU converted from USD to UK£) Cost of Shipping/Insurance £500 Sub Total 1: £5500 (amount duty is calculated on) Duty on Sub Total 1 @3.5%: £192.5 Sub Total 2: £5692.5 VAT @ 20% on Sub Total 2: £1138.5 TOTAL Landed cost including duty and VAT: £6831 So the price paid goes up by approximately 37% (£5,000 to £6,831). The only reason I now know about this price-hike situation was because a while ago I bought one fairly high-value item from Japan and the final amount I had to pay to have the item released by UK Customs came as a bit of a shock... Pip. Edited July 17, 2019 by pippy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparquelito Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) I have contemplated joining this thread for many weeks, but am a loss for answering the first part of the question. Sure, the 'one that got away' has to be the 1971 Gibson Les Paul Deluxe gold-top that I owned for little more than a year, and then sold in January of 1978, right before I went off to Army Basic Training. I needed the money, and foolishly believed that I would be leaving behind not only the garage band I was in, but also guitar playing in general, the minute I became an Army helicopter pilot. My brother (and bandmate at the time) warned me not to sell the Les Paul, but I caved into the demands of my then girlfriend (and future ex-wife), and I sold the thing. Along with a really sweet Fender Twin Reverb tube amp. Years later, and after taking stock of the situation, I must confess a few things; * I regret selling the Les Paul, though the fellow I sold it to still owns and plays it to this day. He really loves it and takes good care of it. So that's a good thing. * I regret selling the Twin Reverb amp, though the fellow I sold it to learned a lot, later blowing it up while in a drug-fueled haze. He is now 25+ years clean and sober. Sot that's another good thing. * I regret marrying the (then) girlfriend. It was a miserable marriage. But I got a wonderful daughter out of it, and she, in turn, produced her own wonderful daughter, and she is a wise young woman who has always made smart relationship choices. Yet another good thing!! * 41 years after selling the Les Paul, I am still in a band with my brother, and we make really fabulous music together. And my current wife supports me and the band, 100 percent. The best thing of all. I have bought and sold many, many guitars over the years since that gold-top. And I currently own in the neighborhood of 20 guitars. I love them all, and (to the point of the 'first part of the question') I really can't pick a favorite. I play them all, and struggle with the choice of which ones to bring to each band gig. Ask me to pick a favorite? You may as well blindfold me, drag me into the music room, spin me 'round and 'round, and ask me to point blindly at one. Okay, there. That one must be my favorite. 🤔https://www.dropshots.com/sparkmaj/date/2019-04-15/18:28:13 Edited July 17, 2019 by sparquelito 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 2 hours ago, sparquelito said: I have contemplated joining this thread for many weeks, but am a loss for answering the first part of the question. Sure, the 'one that got away' has to be the 1971 Gibson Les Paul Deluxe gold-top that I owned for little more than a year, and then sold in January of 1978, right before I went off to Army Basic Training. I needed the money, and foolishly believed that I would be leaving behind not only the garage band I was in, but also guitar playing in general, the minute I became an Army helicopter pilot. My brother (and bandmate at the time) warned me not to sell the Les Paul, but I caved into the demands of my then girlfriend (and future ex-wife), and I sold the thing. Along with a really sweet Fender Twin Reverb tube amp. Years later, and after taking stock of the situation, I must confess a few things; * I regret selling the Les Paul, though the fellow I sold it to still owns and plays it to this day. He really loves it and takes good care of it. So that's a good thing. * I regret selling the Twin Reverb amp, though the fellow I sold it to learned a lot, later blowing it up while in a drug-fueled haze. He is now 25+ years clean and sober. Sot that's another good thing. * I regret marrying the (then) girlfriend. It was a miserable marriage. But I got a wonderful daughter out of it, and she, in turn, produced her own wonderful daughter, and she is a wise young woman who has always made smart relationship choices. Yet another good thing!! * 41 years after selling the Les Paul, I am still in a band with my brother, and we make really fabulous music together. And my current wife supports me and the band, 100 percent. The best thing of all. I have bought and sold many, many guitars over the years since that gold-top. And I currently own in the neighborhood of 20 guitars. I love them all, and (to the point of the 'first part of the question') I really can't pick a favorite. I play them all, and struggle with the choice of which ones to bring to each band gig. Ask me to pick a favorite? You may as well blindfold me, drag me into the music room, spin me 'round and 'round, and ask me to point blindly at one. Okay, there. That one must be my favorite. 🤔https://www.dropshots.com/sparkmaj/date/2019-04-15/18:28:13 Glad you made it to the party, late or no. Interesting post and guitar choice. 🧐 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 5 hours ago, pippy said: Goods such as a guitar being brought into the UK are not only subjected to a 20% mark-up for VAT (Value Added Tax) but also a levy for 'Customs Duty'. This is a strange one as the amount which will be charged varies with both value (Under £135; Gifts with a value between £135 and £630; other goods above £135) and country of origin. The sums involved also vary if insurance and postage rates are involved. The total payable can be quite scarily high compared with original price. Here's one example; Goods value: £5000 (purchased from outside of EU converted from USD to UK£) Cost of Shipping/Insurance £500 Sub Total 1: £5500 (amount duty is calculated on) Duty on Sub Total 1 @3.5%: £192.5 Sub Total 2: £5692.5 VAT @ 20% on Sub Total 2: £1138.5 TOTAL Landed cost including duty and VAT: £6831 So the price paid goes up by approximately 37% (£5,000 to £6,831). The only reason I now know about this price-hike situation was because a while ago I bought one fairly high-value item from Japan and the final amount I had to pay to have the item released by UK Customs came as a bit of a shock... Pip. Thanks for the insight Pip. That explains it This is a stupid question.. but what if you were to get a cheap flight to California and buy one for about $2,000. Would they tax it if you bring it back to the UK as luggage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 "I don't know with 100% certainty" is the honest answer. I'm pretty sure it would all be applicable if it was new and cost more than the £630 upper limit for a 'Gift'. I'm pretty sure the Customs Duty also applies if the item was bought by a UK resident even if it was bought second-hand. I'm not sure what the situation is with VAT on used goods, though. We have friends who are in the process of moving from New Jersey to Surrey (about 30 miles from my part of London) and the thought did cross my mind to have them bring something in (Mark's Guitar Loft has a few tasty items!) saying it was their private possession as I can't imagine Customs Duty would be imposed on personal property. Pip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Well once I finally make my way over there I’d be happy to do some guitar smuggling for you if needed Here are a couple more pics of my Ric since I was just playing it. The grain of the maple has a really cool 3D appearance in person Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tekboy Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Back when I first started performing, in 1970-71, I had an Epiphone ES-335 and had no idea what it was. I had absolutely no sense, having just come home from Vietnam after two years and all the confusion that came with that. Besides, I was a really good drummer at the time, and was learning to take the front of the stage. The evil Pawn Shop got the Epi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane v Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 It's a tough call with the all the guitars I have, but I seem to pick up my Epi JL Revolution Casino more often than any other guitar I own. As for the one that got away, I would have to say my 79 Vantage V600. That guitar played like butter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tman Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Favorite, as of 2 days ago is my Custom LP Gold Top Modern Axcess! 😃 One that got away (completely unintentional loss by being at the wrong place at the wrong time) was my 2011 American Standard White Stratocaster. 😢 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOhioLars Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 On 6/23/2019 at 5:00 PM, jdgm said: I like that one....and ZZ's Tele, lovely. The one that got away is on the left (everything else in the pic went too eventually) my 1979 guitars and amp - Roland JC120, Hagstrom Swede and - Fender '66-67 larger headstock Strat, F-stamped neckplate ser.no 161234 I think. Sold to Vintage and Rare Guitars for £350 in early '80s. I will always regret it - a LOT. It had been refretted twice. My current favourite solidbody: Gibson L4S, 2004. Do you still have the L4-S?? I have one in Wine Red. I know they aren’t very collectible, but do love mine as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOhioLars Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 On 6/23/2019 at 5:00 PM, jdgm said: I like that one....and ZZ's Tele, lovely. The one that got away is on the left (everything else in the pic went too eventually) my 1979 guitars and amp - Roland JC120, Hagstrom Swede and - Fender '66-67 larger headstock Strat, F-stamped neckplate ser.no 161234 I think. Sold to Vintage and Rare Guitars for £350 in early '80s. I will always regret it - a LOT. It had been refretted twice. My current favourite solidbody: Gibson L4S, 2004. Do you still have the L4-S?? I have one in Wine Red. I know they aren’t really collectible, but do love mine as well and wonder why I don’t see more of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdgm Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, NEOhioLars said: Do you still have the L4-S?? I have one in Wine Red. I know they aren’t really collectible, but do love mine as well and wonder why I don’t see more of them. Yes; and I have literally just put it down to answer your post! I would like a red one too as they have the engraved pickup covers and I love the simple design, the neck is very comfy and the fretboard easy to play. I suppose not many were made... they are quite rare and an example of one of the many different models Gibson produced in small quantities in the HJ era. Edited March 7, 2022 by jdgm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pohatu771 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 An old thread, but I'll respond anyway: For acoustic, it is my 1964 Epiphone Cortez. For electric, my 2021 Epiphone Casino. Ask me to pick between them and I won't know how to answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Yes, this is very old and some of the people aren't on here anymore. I'll also respond. My Favorite has to be my Gibson Gold top Standard & the one that got away was my cousins 60's Gibson after he died. I tried to get it but his X-wife kept it or sold it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saturn Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 I went back through the pages to see if I ever responded to this back when it was fresh. I did. And my answer today would be the same as in 2019. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 On 3/8/2022 at 3:19 AM, saturn said: I went back through the pages to see if I ever responded to this back when it was fresh. I did. And my answer today would be the same as in 2019. Same here. I have moved a couple of guitars on, and gained another. Other than that, nothings changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBSinTo Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 My favorite guitar after all these years, is the 1974 Martin D-28 purchased used in 1979. And the one that "got away" is a D-18 that I traded a Goya N-26 for in a pawnshop in the late 1960's and kept only very, very briefly. It had a bulge behind the bridge (that likely could have been easily fixed by re-gluing the bracing ), but being young and foolish, I simply re-pawned it and got the Goya back. The Goya and cash were then swapped for the D-28 years later. RBSinTo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 32 minutes ago, RBSinTo said: My favorite guitar after all these years, is the 1974 Martin D-28 purchased used in 1979. And the one that "got away" is a D-18 that I traded a Goya N-26 for in a pawnshop in the late 1960's and kept only very, very briefly. It had a bulge behind the bridge (that likely could have been easily fixed by re-gluing the bracing ), but being young and foolish, I simply re-pawned it and got the Goya back. The Goya and cash were then swapped for the D-28 years later. RBSinTo A good D-18 is priceless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBSinTo Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 40 minutes ago, Sgt. Pepper said: A good D-18 is priceless. Chief, As is twenty-twenty hindsight. Or a Time Machine. RBSinTo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, RBSinTo said: Chief, As is twenty-twenty hindsight. Or a Time Machine. RBSinTo Yeah yeah. I never sold a Martin cause it was a dog, I sold them to fund other ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBSinTo Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Sgt. Pepper said: Yeah yeah. I never sold a Martin cause it was a dog, I sold them to fund other ones. It wasn't a dog, and I've never met a D-18 that was. This one just needed what likely were some basic repairs, but as I said, I was young and foolish so....... RBSinTo Edited March 9, 2022 by RBSinTo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, RBSinTo said: It wasn't a dog., and I've never met a D-18 that was. This one just needed what likely were some basic repairs, but as I said, I was young and foolish so....... RBSinTo I would have sold you mine. I would have even hand delivered it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBSinTo Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Sgt. Pepper said: I would have sold you mine. I would have even hand delivered it. Chief, I assume you would have traded the shipping costs for some good Chinese dumplings. RBSinTo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 hour ago, RBSinTo said: Chief, I assume you would have traded the shipping costs for some good Chinese dumplings. RBSinTo Indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinch Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Can't see myself ever playing anything else after the Standard, really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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