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I like to talk politics with other musicians. It's easier to bring it back to a friendly tone. Plus those political sites are full of Politicians Interns hammering away on talking points.

 

It would be nice if we could keep it down to one or two threads, though.

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I like to talk politics with other musicians. It's easier to bring it back to a friendly tone. Plus those political sites are full of Politicians Interns hammering away on talking points.

 

It would be nice if we could keep it down to one or two threads' date=' though. [/quote']

 

That link I provided is a music oriented group - alt.guitar.amps

 

Keeping it down to a few threads is exactly what I had in mind. Half of what's on the first page is politics, usually the same people discussing the same crap ad nauseum.

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Since this board seems to be turning into the same POS anyway' date=' why not try an established forum where being an armchair pundit is a tradition? And you can cuss too!

 

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.guitar.amps/topics

 

No, THIS is the place. <The pit, the best and worst place on the interwebz. I go here when I need to blow off some steam. I have a secret alias there. If you act retarded or like an asshole, no one will know because almost everyone there is one.

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Lawrence Livermore Laboratories has discovered the heaviest element

yet known to science.

 

The new element, Governmentium (Gv), has one neutron, 25 assistant

neutrons, 88 deputy neutrons, and 198 assistant deputy neutrons,

giving it an atomic mass of 312.

 

These 312 particles are held together by forces called morons, which

are surrounded by vast quantities of lepton-like particles called

peons.

 

Since Governmentium has no electrons, it is inert; however, it can be

detected, because it impedes every reaction with which it comes into

contact. A tiny amount of Governmentium can cause a reaction that

would normally take less than a second, to take from four days to four

years to complete.

 

Governmentium has a normal half-life of 2- 6 years; It does not decay,

but instead undergoes a reorganization in which a portion of the

assistant neutrons and deputy neutrons exchange places.

 

In fact, Governmentium's mass will actually increase over time, since

each reorganization will cause more morons to become neutrons, forming

isodopes.

 

This characteristic of moron promotion leads some scientists to

believe that Governmentium is formed whenever morons reach a critical

concentration. This hypothetical quantity is referred to as critical

morass.

 

When catalyzed with money, Governmentium becomes Administratium, an

element that radiates just as much energy as Governmentium since it

has half as many peons but twice as many morons.

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545 vs. 300,000,000

 

EVERY CITIZEN NEEDS TO READ THIS AND THINK ABOUT WHAT THIS JOURNALIST HAS SCRIPTED IN THIS MESSAGE. READ IT AND THEN REALLY THINK ABOUT OUR CURRENT POLITICAL DEBACLE.

 

Charley Reese has been a journalist for 49 years.

 

 

545 PEOPLE

 

By Charlie Reese

 

 

Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.

 

Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?

 

Have you ever wondered, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes?

 

You and I don't propose a federal budget. The president does.

 

You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of representatives does.

 

You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does.

 

You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.

 

You and I don't control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.

 

One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president, and nine Supreme Court justices 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

 

I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.

 

I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a president to do one cotton-picking thing. I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes.

 

Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

 

What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits. The president can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it.

 

The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of the House? Nancy Pelosi. She is the leader of the majority party. She and fellow House members, not the president, can approve any budget they want. If the president vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.

 

It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million can not replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts -- of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can't think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

 

If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair.

 

If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red ..

 

If the Army & Marines are in IRAQ , it's because they want them in IRAQ

 

If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it's because they want it that way.

 

There are no insoluble government problems.

 

Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power. Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like "the economy," "inflation," or "politics" that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

 

Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.

 

They, and they alone, have the power.

 

They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses.

 

Provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees.

 

We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!

 

Charlie Reese is a former columnist of the Orlando Sentinel Newspaper.

 

What you do with this article now that you have read it.......... is up to you.

 

 

 

 

 

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545 vs. 300,000,000

 

EVERY CITIZEN NEEDS TO READ THIS AND THINK ABOUT WHAT THIS JOURNALIST HAS SCRIPTED IN THIS MESSAGE. READ IT AND THEN REALLY THINK ABOUT OUR CURRENT POLITICAL DEBACLE.

 

Charley Reese has been a journalist for 49 years.

 

 

545 PEOPLE

 

By Charlie Reese

 

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I made it to here before I started thinking about ice cream and cookies ...

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Funny stuff' date=' Axe! I gotta admit, when we got a "lounge" for off-topic chatter, I thought we'd all talk about Strats or something. I had no idea people harbored the desire to talk about politics on a guitar forum. [/quote']

 

Ditto. I don't care that people talk about politics here, I'm just sick of seeing so much of it.

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Amen, these page-long political or religious rants suck and it seems like its never enough.

 

I do not at all mind the occasional off-topic subject but holy hell this place is a freaking battlezone.

 

I do not see much constructive talk. Lots of head-butting.

 

My guess is that some people rather talk politics here because in other forums there are people just like them and they can't get a word in...

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