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Looks like I’m getting me a new Casino

The foreign-made Texans were about $699 and the USA made ones are going to be $2699. There up on Sweetwaters site. Foreign-made casinos are about $499 so I would believe the usa-made ones are going to

I read the Beatles had a hard time getting Gibsons in the UK back then due to legal and/or distribution problems, since they didn't have that problem with Epiphone, they got them instead. True or

6 hours ago, Larsongs said:

They are supposed to real for 2020 according to NAMM. Although, they don't appear on Epi Site.. No Specs, Pricing etc..

Other than a couple Pics not much else on these.  

What are the Specs, where are they going to be built, how much? More Pics...

 

The foreign-made Texans were about $699 and the USA made ones are going to be $2699. There up on Sweetwaters site. Foreign-made casinos are about $499 so I would believe the usa-made ones are going to be over two grand. They are not yet up on Sweetwater site.

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I’ve been following NAMM on Guitar Player.Com,  Guitar. Com, Music Radar. Com and I tell you the only guitar that jazzed me up is the non reverse Firebird from Gibson Custom Shop. Now everyone seems to be digging the Epiphones, and I get it,  a Epiphone made in the USA is a rare treat for those who dig Epiphone. I don’t, but that doesn’t mean anything. I didn’t see one guitar from Fender that I would want, but I would be like a dog on a bone for a non reverse Firebird.

And it’s made in the USA, like every Gibson.

 

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16 hours ago, Larsongs said:

They are supposed to real for 2020 according to NAMM. Although, they don't appear on Epi Site.. No Specs, Pricing etc..

Other than a couple Pics not much else on these.  

What are the Specs, where are they going to be built, how much? More Pics...

Thanks

 

I understand (probably thru an unofficial source) that these were a preview to the summer NAMM. Which, if true, could explain why Epiphone doesn't have it listed on their site. And why there ain't a whole lotta pics available. Also, if true, won't ship till later this year.

Looks to be early 60s specs (old style headstock, old style trapeze, etc.). Royal Tan with nickel p-up covers, sunburst with black plastic p-up covers. My suspicion is that they will be built by Gibson (weren't they next to Gibson's area?) and I've heard they will list around $2800.

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This is certainly good to see, especially since there's currently no ES-330 in the new lineup.

Love the Royal Tan, but I do prefer the hourglass headstock.  No matter though.  I'm not going to be in the market for one, already having two stellar 330s and a very nice Elitist Casino.

Otherwise, my wheels would be on high-speed spin cycle! 

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10 hours ago, Navy Vet. said:

I’ve been following NAMM on Guitar Player.Com,  Guitar. Com, Music Radar. Com and I tell you the only guitar that jazzed me up is the non reverse Firebird from Gibson Custom Shop. Now everyone seems to be digging the Epiphones, and I get it,  a Epiphone made in the USA is a rare treat for those who dig Epiphone. I don’t, but that doesn’t mean anything. I didn’t see one guitar from Fender that I would want, but I would be like a dog on a bone for a non reverse Firebird.

And it’s made in the USA, like every Gibson.

 

If that Firebird is like the non reverse Brian Jones played I want one... After I get the USA Casino... 

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There's a private forum I frequent that had a really great write up on the history of Epiphone in the '60s. It addresses especially the consideration of pricing and will be invaluable to those that weren't around or don't remember Gibson US-made Epiphones. I thought it was very well written and I wish I could just post a link to it. Failing that, here's the post:
 
"That's why there WAS an Epiphone brand, so the parent company CMI could sell guitars to a second dealer when there was already a Gibson dealer in that territory. If a Gibson dealer had a territory, CMI could not sell Gibsons to another store within it. But they could sell Epiphones to the store next door without violating the letter of the agreement.

Originally, CMI bought Epiphone in a sort of salvage sale, to gain access to its machines and parts for making basses. They soon realized that the brand name itself was valuable, because it gave the a way to get more sales in existing, protected territories by offering a line up that closely mirrored Gibson's to dealers that othwerwise had Gibson unavailable to them.

Kalamazoo-made Epiphones were never less expensive, second class citizens. In the '60s they were the equivalent of Gibsons in both in price and quality and made in the same facilities, though there were minor price variances that reflected special features and ornamentation, as you'd expect. Some Epiphones were MORE EXPENSIVE than Gibsons, like the Excellente acoustic that has been recently reissued. Epiphone became a budget brand when manufacturing was outsourced to various offshore makers on the '70s to combat the rise of low-cost import brands."
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Are the headstocks that look more Gibsony, that are going to be on the new ones, just like they were for Epi in the old days, or a new look to spruce it up?

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Yes. I agree. But, they're not Made In The USA Casinos.

I already have 3 great Casinos.. An IBJL Revolution, a Ltd Edition RI 50th Anniv. 1961 Casino with Tremotone & a Ltd Edition Peerless Casino with Bigsby.. 

I would like to have the USA Royal Tan Casino.. I'll add a B7 Bigsby...

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Looking at the video they mention the neck being sunk further into the body.  

After spending forever getting used to the length of a Firebird I don't think one of those Casinos would work for me, it would feel as cramped as a Les Paul.  

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56 minutes ago, SteveFord said:

Looking at the video they mention the neck being sunk further into the body.  

After spending forever getting used to the length of a Firebird I don't think one of those Casinos would work for me, it would feel as cramped as a Les Paul.  

I never had a problem reaching the first fret on my BB and I'm only 5'9" with little baby hands.

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3 hours ago, Sgt. Pepper said:

I never had a problem reaching the first fret on my BB and I'm only 5'9" with little baby hands.

 

I play a Firebird V, LP's, 335's, Fenders, Gretsch's & Casinos.. Love them all... Short Neck or Long Neck it's pretty easy to switch.. The only one I have difficulty are the 3/4 Ric 325's... Wish I didn't because it's a cool Guitar...

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9 minutes ago, Larsongs said:

 

I play a Firebird V, LP's, 335's, Fenders, Gretsch's & Casinos.. Love them all... Short Neck or Long Neck it's pretty easy to switch.. The only one I have difficulty are the 3/4 Ric 325's... Wish I didn't because it's a cool Guitar...

My friend had one of those baby (John Lennon) Rics and let met borrow it. Way too small for even me.

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53 minutes ago, Sgt. Pepper said:

My friend had one of those baby (John Lennon) Rics and let met borrow it. Way too small for even me.

Lennon's first guitars were small, what I would call sailor guitars, he played one of those small 5/8 scale Ric's on the Ed Sullivan show. It seems he preferred small scale guitars through most of the early Beatles years. They reworked, rebuilt, customized and painted most of their early guitars. It took them quite a while to get up to what we might call student level guitars. They must have been really determined to succeed with what they had to work with. It just goes to show that its in the hands of the player, not the quality of the instrument.

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