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Sound differences of the 2000 and up Country Western...

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Compared to lets say 2000 and up J-45, J-50, Hummingbird. Are they all pretty close to each other sound wise? I never played a CW and am just curious why SC plays one, and how they sound. 

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53 minutes ago, anzafrank said:

Compared to lets say 2000 and up J-45, J-50, Hummingbird. Are they all pretty close to each other sound wise? I never played a CW and am just curious why SC plays one, and how they sound. 

I'm sure like most people cause she likes the way it sounds. That is usually my criteria.  

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Didn't Crow just fall in love with the square Gibson sound like so many others before and after her.

Believe it's a 1962 or 64 with a fixed saddle - she met then took it home as late as 1991 and (almost) never looked back. . 

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1 hour ago, Sgt. Pepper said:

I'm sure like most people cause she likes the way it sounds. That is usually my criteria.  

 

Must have taken quite a bit of time to come up with such wisdom on the subject.

 

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The Country Western in general became dimensionally the same specs as the Hummingbird in 1962 .

 

Why does Sheryl like her C& W ??

Gibson interviewed her for the new souped up version of her signature model:

 


This is different than her previous C&W in that it has a Wide “X”  scalloped bracing.

 

The originals from the 60’s had straight (unscalloped  bracing) and the old Sheryl Crow model  had Scalloped X bracing in the standard “X” position.

 

 

Here’s demo of the old Sheryl model:


 

JC

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1 hour ago, anzafrank said:

 

Must have taken quite a bit of time to come up with such wisdom on the subject.

 

It didn't but you gotta let your ears and wallet determine what sounds good to you and what you can afford. Everyone on this forum can chime and give their own interpretation of how it sounds.

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It's easy to fall in love with that sound. I have a love-hate relationship with the squares. Well... hate is not appropriate. I hate them because it is the one model that puts me on an impossible one-way road to seeking perfection. I can never seem to be satisfied with "let good enough be"... with Birdy squares only.

My own irrational issues aside, in the spirit of JC... this is the video demo of what starts me on my insane square road. The tone is heavenly.

 

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1 hour ago, Salfromchatham said:

It's easy to fall in love with that sound. I have a love-hate relationship with the squares. Well... hate is not appropriate. I hate them because it is the one model that puts me on an impossible one-way road to seeking perfection. I can never seem to be satisfied with "let good enough be"... with Birdy squares only.

My own irrational issues aside, in the spirit of JC... this is the video demo of what starts me on my insane square road. The tone is heavenly.

 

 

I have yet to meet a guitar that didn't sound good tuned down, in an open tuning. It's not clear how accurately that represents the guitar as most of us would play it, but it does sound really nice.

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the inlays ....  performers like thier guitars to be fancy ie j200-  good sound and BLING

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I borrowed a MK1 Sheryl CW from the London Gibson offices when I was having my old SJ20/ refretted in 2008. I had some support shows coming up and needed a guitar for them and had a deal with Gibson at the time.

The guitar was fantastic-I wanted to buy it from Gibson but they wouldn't let me as it was a demo instrument. Similar to a Hummingbird but this one had some overtones which were astonishingly pretty. Really light and responsive, loud but never hard or brash. Super impressive, and I can see why SC wanted them built that way. I'd love to try one of the newer ones!

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T. Hoffmann is a fine player, who we have seen before on these pages. His CW sounds good, but very dry.

Here's a new model, which seems looser and more lush. Sat up only yesterday.

 

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On 2/8/2020 at 3:17 AM, E-minor7 said:

And here's the real deal ~ a clean 1965 w. porcelain

 

I like this one the best.

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On 2/5/2020 at 10:55 PM, JuanCarlosVejar said:

The Country Western in general became dimensionally the same specs as the Hummingbird in 1962 .

 

Why does Sheryl like her C& W ??

Gibson interviewed her for the new souped up version of her signature model:

 


This is different than her previous C&W in that it has a Wide “X”  scalloped bracing.

 

The originals from the 60’s had straight (unscalloped  bracing) and the old Sheryl Crow model  had Scalloped X bracing in the standard “X” position.

 

 

Here’s demo of the old Sheryl model:


 

JC

 

didnt know that! wonder how different the 2000 models and new models sound!  really liked this vid demo

 

edit: i mean having a side by side comparison video

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6 hours ago, E-minor7 said:

Here's another of the old ones - looks almost mint

Time capsule condition on that one. . . the unusual assemblage (to me) of chord shapes in the demo, and  waiting for him to put the pick down, had me scrolling up the page to listen to another. Gives an appreciation for the trickier-than-it-looks demos out there.

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On 2/16/2020 at 10:56 AM, Paul14 said:

I like this one too.

Just a wow sound. And look how effortlessly he switches between his fingerstyle and his pick. Really a great video.

 

 

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3 hours ago, Salfromchatham said:

 

Sal, I would say  Tobias has probably put in his 10,000 hours of practice. And then some.

The way he holds his pick when he is not using it, and then shifts it to use it, is pretty fascinating. I would drop it every time.

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I couldn’t disagree more when Sheryl says “Gibson nailed it” . I don’t think the new ones sound anything like the originals. Not saying the new ones sound bad, just not the same.

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I have a Crow CW and I say Gibson "nailed it" on a great sounding guitar and just leave it at that.

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1 hour ago, Hall said:

I have a Crow CW and I say Gibson "nailed it" on a great sounding guitar and just leave it at that.

Would really like to try one of the new versions. 

And yes, contemporary squares are often terrific guitars.  Let them break in and reveal some loose bass then they get dream-real.

Btw. none of you seemed to notice that the  64'er posted last Tuesday has the plastic bridge. 

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