Westcoastcarl Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 So I buy a "MINT" 2015 ES- Les Paul Memphis from Reverb last week and it arrives from seller safe and sound BUT 1)the hardware is corroded, 2) there is rough glue/ bubbles at the neck joint, 3) there is a 5 inch X1 inch sleeve rash between the upper F hole and bottom strap buttom, 4) the GIBSON headstock Logo is a vinyl decal instead of inlay, 5) t here is a 1 inch - 1/32 inch mark - looks like a dark grey magic marker wavy mark between the pickups that is protected by a beautiful "factory" lacquer. So, my first take is that I have been mislead by seller. The pictures do not describe or indicate these flaws. I contacted the seller and he tells me that this is VOS treatment and makes this guitar very special. If it is so special should you not show it in your pictures? You should advertise "Just look at the beautiful corroded bridge and stop bar on this $3000 guitar- and it washes off if you apply some elbow grease. Well......... I still have the guitar because he won't take back. I inadvertently cleaned and waxed with Dunlop 65 to see if there was any hope of keeping the guitar before I contacted him. The "VOS" finish on the hardware has been erased for the most part. The rash on the top is also almost gone with the application of my efforts and tears. I am taking the guitar in to a luthier to fix the lacquer bubbles at the neck joint at the cost to the seller- $110 he agreed to pay. I will have to live with the very obvious mark between the pick-ups. I will be forever &^%$ pissed off >?":< with GIBSON ( I also have a LP Classic and G45) for putting a ?plastic? surface mounted logo decal on the headstock- c'mon Gibson even my Epiphones have MOP inlays. Who buys a Gibson guitar with the expectation of seeing a removable decal on the headstock every time it is played- Gibson may want to rethink this way of saving money in the manufacture of there "quality/\' guitars. I just don't understand why Gibson would VOS or decal anything. I also "do not get" the authentic road worn Icon copies of guitars. These fake aging treatments/ styles we see appear to be just another symptom of our culture going MAD. You have to pay extra for this mess and ..... I can feel the passion rising for a new song emerging. Thank you , I feel much better now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbluesplayer Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Got any pictures? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaicho8888 Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Sounds fishy... yes, pictures will help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFord Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 I believe this whole pre-beat to sh*t thing started with Fender. https://guitar.com/guides/essential-guide/relic-guitars-untold-story/ Personally, I think the whole thing is stupid and would never buy one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 I've said it before and I'll say it again, send me your guitars I'll beat the p!ss out of them for free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) On 3/7/2020 at 2:07 AM, Westcoastcarl said: the GIBSON headstock Logo is a vinyl decal instead of inlay You had me at fake with vinyl decal. Never ever in my life have I heard of that on a Gibson. You got scammed. Contact Reverb as soon as you can get them on the phone and demand your $ back. Silk Screened Yes, Vinyl Never. Edited March 9, 2020 by Sgt. Pepper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
labomba Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) On 3/7/2020 at 2:07 AM, Westcoastcarl said: So I buy a "MINT" 2015 ES- Les Paul Memphis from Reverb last week and it arrives from seller safe and sound BUT 1)the hardware is corroded, 2) there is rough glue/ bubbles at the neck joint, 3) there is a 5 inch X1 inch sleeve rash between the upper F hole and bottom strap buttom, 4) the GIBSON headstock Logo is a vinyl decal instead of inlay, 5) t here is a 1 inch - 1/32 inch mark - looks like a dark grey magic marker wavy mark between the pickups that is protected by a beautiful "factory" lacquer. So, my first take is that I have been mislead by seller. The pictures do not describe or indicate these flaws. I contacted the seller and he tells me that this is VOS treatment and makes this guitar very special. If it is so special should you not show it in your pictures? You should advertise "Just look at the beautiful corroded bridge and stop bar on this $3000 guitar- and it washes off if you apply some elbow grease. Well......... I still have the guitar because he won't take back. I inadvertently cleaned and waxed with Dunlop 65 to see if there was any hope of keeping the guitar before I contacted him. The "VOS" finish on the hardware has been erased for the most part. The rash on the top is also almost gone with the application of my efforts and tears. I am taking the guitar in to a luthier to fix the lacquer bubbles at the neck joint at the cost to the seller- $110 he agreed to pay. I will have to live with the very obvious mark between the pick-ups. I will be forever &^%$ pissed off >?":< with GIBSON ( I also have a LP Classic and G45) for putting a ?plastic? surface mounted logo decal on the headstock- c'mon Gibson even my Epiphones have MOP inlays. Who buys a Gibson guitar with the expectation of seeing a removable decal on the headstock every time it is played- Gibson may want to rethink this way of saving money in the manufacture of there "quality/\' guitars. I just don't understand why Gibson would VOS or decal anything. I also "do not get" the authentic road worn Icon copies of guitars. These fake aging treatments/ styles we see appear to be just another symptom of our culture going MAD. You have to pay extra for this mess and ..... I can feel the passion rising for a new song emerging. Thank you , I feel much better now. I would have charged back my credit card Edited March 10, 2020 by labomba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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