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VOS Angst for my 2015 ES- Les Paul

VOS and Fake Aging of ICON Guitars   

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  1. 1. Do you believe that Gibson should offer VOS and Fake aging in its guitar offerings?

  2. 2. Do you believe it is acceptable for GIBSON to use plastic decals instead of inlays / paint on headstock logos?



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So I buy a  "MINT" 2015 ES- Les Paul  Memphis from Reverb last week and it arrives from seller  safe  and  sound BUT  1)the hardware is  corroded, 2) there is rough glue/ bubbles at the  neck joint, 3) there is a  5 inch X1 inch sleeve rash between the upper F hole and  bottom strap buttom, 4) the GIBSON headstock Logo  is a vinyl decal instead of inlay, 5) t here is a 1 inch - 1/32 inch  mark - looks like a dark grey magic marker wavy mark between the pickups that is protected by a beautiful "factory"  lacquer.

So,  my first take is that I have been mislead by seller. The pictures do not describe or indicate  these flaws. I contacted the seller and he tells me that this is VOS  treatment and makes this guitar very special. If it is so special should you not show it in your pictures?  You should advertise "Just look at the beautiful corroded bridge and stop bar on this  $3000 guitar- and it washes off if you apply some elbow grease.

Well.........  I still have the guitar because he won't take back.  I  inadvertently cleaned and waxed with Dunlop 65 to see if there was any hope of keeping the guitar before I contacted him. The "VOS" finish  on the hardware has been  erased for the most part. The rash  on the top is also almost gone with the application of my efforts and tears.   I am taking the guitar in to a luthier to fix the lacquer bubbles at the neck joint at the cost to the seller- $110 he agreed to pay.  I will have to live with the very obvious mark between the pick-ups. I will be forever &^%$ pissed off  >?":< with GIBSON (  I also have a LP Classic and G45) for putting a ?plastic? surface mounted logo decal on the headstock- c'mon Gibson even my Epiphones  have MOP  inlays.  Who buys a Gibson  guitar with the expectation of seeing  a removable decal on the headstock every time it is played- Gibson  may want to rethink this way of saving money in the manufacture of there "quality/\' guitars.

I just don't understand why Gibson would VOS  or decal anything.  I also "do not get" the authentic road worn Icon copies of guitars.  These  fake aging treatments/ styles we see  appear to be just another symptom of  our culture going  MAD.  You have to pay extra for this mess and ..... I can feel the passion rising for a new song emerging.

Thank you , I feel much better now.

 

 

 

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I've said it before and I'll say it again, send me your guitars I'll beat the p!ss out of them for free.

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On 3/7/2020 at 2:07 AM, Westcoastcarl said:

 the GIBSON headstock Logo  is a vinyl decal instead of inlay

You had me at fake with vinyl decal. Never ever in my life have I heard of that on a Gibson. You got scammed. Contact Reverb as soon as you can get them on the phone and demand your $ back.

Silk Screened Yes, Vinyl Never.

Edited by Sgt. Pepper

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On 3/7/2020 at 2:07 AM, Westcoastcarl said:

So I buy a  "MINT" 2015 ES- Les Paul  Memphis from Reverb last week and it arrives from seller  safe  and  sound BUT  1)the hardware is  corroded, 2) there is rough glue/ bubbles at the  neck joint, 3) there is a  5 inch X1 inch sleeve rash between the upper F hole and  bottom strap buttom, 4) the GIBSON headstock Logo  is a vinyl decal instead of inlay, 5) t here is a 1 inch - 1/32 inch  mark - looks like a dark grey magic marker wavy mark between the pickups that is protected by a beautiful "factory"  lacquer.

So,  my first take is that I have been mislead by seller. The pictures do not describe or indicate  these flaws. I contacted the seller and he tells me that this is VOS  treatment and makes this guitar very special. If it is so special should you not show it in your pictures?  You should advertise "Just look at the beautiful corroded bridge and stop bar on this  $3000 guitar- and it washes off if you apply some elbow grease.

Well.........  I still have the guitar because he won't take back.  I  inadvertently cleaned and waxed with Dunlop 65 to see if there was any hope of keeping the guitar before I contacted him. The "VOS" finish  on the hardware has been  erased for the most part. The rash  on the top is also almost gone with the application of my efforts and tears.   I am taking the guitar in to a luthier to fix the lacquer bubbles at the neck joint at the cost to the seller- $110 he agreed to pay.  I will have to live with the very obvious mark between the pick-ups. I will be forever &^%$ pissed off  >?":< with GIBSON (  I also have a LP Classic and G45) for putting a ?plastic? surface mounted logo decal on the headstock- c'mon Gibson even my Epiphones  have MOP  inlays.  Who buys a Gibson  guitar with the expectation of seeing  a removable decal on the headstock every time it is played- Gibson  may want to rethink this way of saving money in the manufacture of there "quality/\' guitars.

I just don't understand why Gibson would VOS  or decal anything.  I also "do not get" the authentic road worn Icon copies of guitars.  These  fake aging treatments/ styles we see  appear to be just another symptom of  our culture going  MAD.  You have to pay extra for this mess and ..... I can feel the passion rising for a new song emerging.

Thank you , I feel much better now.

 

 

 

I would have charged back my credit card 

Edited by labomba

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