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"  how many deaths will it take till we see

that too many people have died?

the answer my friend

is blowin in the wind "  thanks BD... I am still wonderin...

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20 minutes ago, ghost_of_fl said:

DJI LOW (March)    18,500
DJI NOW    23,723

Volume refers to how many trades are happening whether people are buying OR SELLING.  It's not an indicator of anything other than high activity - good or bad.  You apparently do not have a grasp of that concept so explaining in any further detail is pointless.  How's that 401k doing?  

 

So -  you posted two numbers. What do you claim they prove???   Does the "DJI now" at 5,000 points higher  prove backing off on the quarantine is helping the economy?  Yes or no?  Wouldn't  that conflict  with your claim the quarantine didn't cause the drop?   Yes or no?   What point were you trying to make with these two numbers?  Or are you going to continue to not try to back up your deflection and cherry picking - based on yet another deflective claim:  that  I don't understand  the concept of market volatility.   And my investments are fine - Low Risk.  More deflection?  (Run out of silly photos of masked  fat guys in their Man Caves ? )

To attempt to shut down another forum members discussion  by claiming  'No one shut down the economy'  and  "The market free fall started on Feb 28th but the shut down began in March", still remains un-proven.  As do your claims that children pass the virus on to adults.  As unproven as your claim that US deaths per million can be compared to Swedens deaths per million as "Apples to Apples" - to draw assumptions about lockdowns.  Swedes eat fish - we eat tacos. 

When you're digging a hole, and you see daylight below but not above - it's time to stop digging.    

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55 minutes ago, ghost_of_fl said:

No, you agree with the CDC. 😆

 

The CDC which, based on years of research studies told us that six feet distancing was their recommendation, and then came out with a revised study/ recommendation more than doubling that to 13 feet.  Which, even Lockdown Governors are paying no attention to. 

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2 minutes ago, fortyearspickn said:

So -  you posted two numbers. What do you claim they prove???   Does the "DJI now" at 5,000 points higher  prove backing off on the quarantine is helping the economy?  

Hard to make a point with someone who doesn't do a little reading.  Backing off or initiating more lockdowns? 

Gov. Lujan Grisham authorizes Gallup lockdown

https://www.krqe.com/health/coronavirus-new-mexico/governor-michelle-lujan-grisham-authorizes-gallup-lockdown/

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37 minutes ago, jvi said:

"  how many deaths will it take till we see

that too many people have died?

the answer my friend

is blowin in the wind "  thanks BD... I am still wonderin...

 

Yes, and how many years can some people exist
Before they're allowed to be free?
Yes, and how many times can a man turn his head
And pretend that he just doesn't see?
The answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind.

Maybe Bob was singing about Lockdowns and not Pandemics?  

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17 minutes ago, fortyearspickn said:

 

Yes, and how many years can some people exist
Before they're allowed to be free?
Yes, and how many times can a man turn his head
And pretend that he just doesn't see?
The answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind.

Maybe Bob was singing about Lockdowns and not Pandemics?  

NOT-   maybe just the human state of affairs unchanging

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6 minutes ago, ghost_of_fl said:

Seeing a spike in California and Pennsylvania deaths (see graphs): 

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/coronavirus-deaths-united-states-each-day-2020-n1177936

 

You keep going for the shiny object.  Spikes don't matter, trends matter.  Spikes can be caused by all kinds of things.  Also, since deaths are a lagging indicator those deaths came from infections that started weeks ago.  Also, both of those states have shelter in place orders.  Are they working?  Blanket shelter in place orders have never been done for something like this.  It's not proven science.  The science is quarantine the sick and protect the vulnerable.  The problem is that since there are so many asymptomatic and minimally symptomatic people you can't really quarantine them all because you don't know who they are and there are too many of them.  Then, If you make everyone stay home, now you are clustering people inside small spaces where it is the ideal situation to spread the virus.  I just don't see any of it working very well.

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31 minutes ago, ghost_of_fl said:

Seeing a spike in California and Pennsylvania deaths (see graphs): 

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/coronavirus-deaths-united-states-each-day-2020-n1177936

Your comment above  quotes me from an hour ago...  but is blank..  So, I'm not sure what point I made your comment is in reference to.  Additionally... 

You then add a single sentence - that there is a spike in CA and PA deaths.     With a  link.     You may recall, having read a lot - that Single day spikes  occurred at one point in this past week or so because the PA State Health Director wen back an re-classified deaths originally classified as Not CV  - and decided they 'probably were CV'  and added them in (around 500 in a single day.  Backlash forced her to remove half of them. 

Other than that - I Have To Ask -    "What is your point?"    You include an article that is a running complication of daily deaths graphed in red by state.  But other than that raw data, and you casual observation that two of the states spiked -  are you trying to tell us anything?   Complicated discussions can't be moved forward with a blank quote, a single sentence and a link to raw data.  

My casual observation -   "Only CA and PA spiked."    See - Cherry Picking works both ways.    

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26 minutes ago, jvi said:

NOT-   maybe just the human state of affairs unchanging

 

Yep.  As frustrating for us now as it was 50 years ago.  🙂 

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24 minutes ago, fortyearspickn said:

 

Yep.  As frustrating for us now as it was 50 years ago.  🙂 

too many of these old songs are still relevant, and still great and at 65 Im still listening and hoping--cant kill hope luckily   -be safe folks  live long and prosper   jim

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17 minutes ago, jvi said:

too many of these old songs are still relevant, and still great and at 65 Im still listening and hoping--cant kill hope luckily   -be safe folks  live long and prosper   jim

jim,   Yeah.  Technology, Education, Culture, Health, even Religion -  everything changes except human behavior.   Peace, Out.  Jim

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same back at ya 40  have a great day...jim

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On 4/27/2020 at 3:29 PM, ghost_of_fl said:

These were the approximate numbers for New York state on March 29th (see my post on page 3 of this thread):

53,363 confirmed cases

782 deaths

and here are the numbers according to the same website today: 

292,027 confirmed cases

17,303 deaths

That happened in one month here.  Yes, there are about 19.5 million people living in New York.  It's a very small percentage of the population. But that's a lot of grammas and grandpas that won't be around anymore.  Some mom's and dads.  A few kids.  It's not about percentages, it's about people.  And this is clearly significantly different than the flu. 

 

Now 23,841 reported deaths.  An additional 6538 over the last 5 days. 

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I went to work today.

Haven't missed a day yet.

Business is picking up, this will be a good quarter.

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Supermarkets and hardware have had huge quarters here as people did some 'panic buying' initially and eating at home and doing projects round the house more generally over the past month. Those supplying both have been running factories full tilt. Some online businesses and couriers would also have been busy I'd think. Hardly compares with collapse in trave, tourism, tertiary education, building etc, but yes some businesses have seen a big quarter.

Over the past 3 months Australia has seen 93 CV19 deaths (mainly nursing home/cruise ship/international travel related) and we still have 28 in ICU.  Restrictions (which weren't terribly severe) being lifted to some degree now, so the next month will be a good indicator of how we are going on the road to new normal.

 

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We're still rising, of course.  Up 13 cases in my county since yesterday, up 16 in the county where I work, up 2418 for the state.

It was a nice afternoon so after work I took all of the bikes out for a short spin to keep the juices flowing.  I figure as long as I don't crash and wear a full face helmet with an Apple Warmer attached it should be okay.  That's a piece which attaches to the base of the helmet and tucks into the jacket.  

Like the rest of the planet I'll be so glad to put this behind me but it's going to be a while.

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Wow, Nebraska shot up the last time I checked. Still not nearly as bad as most States. Our State has 5,333 cases as of May 2nd with 76 deaths.  The 2 worst counties are Hall, and 

Douglas where we live. Douglas has 825 cases with 16 deaths. Hall had 1,160 cases with 28 deaths. 

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