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I went to the grocery store in York today and it is just so weird to see everyone (myself included) wearing gloves and masks and looking at each other funny.  I never imagined things would be like this but here we are.

Up 21 more cases in Dauphin Country since yesterday, 9 in York, up 817 state wide with another 75 dead from it.  

February 6th we had our first confirmed death from it, we're now at 1,400,000 (give or take) with 82,925 dead.  

That's less than 14 weeks.

 

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10 hours ago, fortyearspickn said:

 

Can't help but attack people, can you?   Sad.  

 

The difficulty here is very simple, and we all know what it is.

This ain't Europe. No-one is going to give you 80% of your take home pay to sit on your behind and watch TV. The Republicans in the Senate, principally led by Lindsey Graham, made it very clear today: $1200 is all you're getting, Joe Schmoe. That's it. We're done here.

So people have to go back to work. There is literally no other choice. 80,000 corpses provide a sobering disincentive to be in close proximity to other people, so we can tell ourselves that there would be 80,000 corpses whether or not we had closed down the country, or even, perhaps, there are 80,000 corpses because we closed down the country. It doesn't really matter. There will probably be 100,000 corpses by July. (shrug, watchoo gonna do? - just compare it to a year of cigarette smokers' deaths or an Opioid crisis, then it feels innocuous, even though those are deaths caused by behaviors, not a highly infectious disease). The news makes it clear that Americans want to spend money in the service economy, and workers in that economy are likely going to suffer horribly one way or the other: maybe get COVID-19, or definitely end up bankrupt and homeless. It's not really a hard choice, in those terms, is it? Possibly suffer, or definitely suffer? The same is true for workers in other industries.

500,000 to 850,000 Spanish flu deaths in the US a century ago, and mostly forgotten within a few years. People died of flu. **** happens. It's only been resurrected lately in the public consciousness because it's the closest thing in recent American history to COVID-19. The Great Depression? Spoken of in hushed and terrible terms for 80+ something years.

Economic Disasters > Public Health Disasters (in America).

This is not an ideal situation. But it seems that's where we are.

 

 

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11 hours ago, Lord Summerisle said:

The difficulty here is very simple, and we all know what it is.

 

We are indeed drifting into the arena of the unwell.   Making an enemy of our own future...

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A lot of industries and able to make adjustments to stay temporarily quarantined while still "getting the job done".  Improvise, adapt, overcome.  Perhaps certain industries are at fault for thinking it could never happen. 

I work in technology and I can tell you, we've been using remote connection technology for decades.   That doesn't apply to every industry, but IMO lots of business owners were caught with their pants down while enjoying their "summer homes" and they are at fault for the shutdown too. 

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1 hour ago, ghost_of_fl said:

A lot of industries and able to make adjustments to stay temporarily quarantined while still "getting the job done".  Improvise, adapt, overcome.  Perhaps certain industries are at fault for thinking it could never happen. 

I work in technology and I can tell you, we've been using remote connection technology for decades.   That doesn't apply to every industry, but IMO lots of business owners were caught with their pants down while enjoying their "summer homes" and they are at fault for the shutdown too. 

the virus is the ONLY  REASON FOR  SHUT DOWN.  SAVING YOUR *** FROM DYING AND TO KEEP IT FROM KILLING YER FRIENDS AND FAMILY

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Another 137 dead since yesterday here in the wilds of Pennsyltucky.  

Locals milling around with no masks and clumping together at the old fishing hole.  No bike stop for me on my after work ride.

Here's a disturbing one: two people in York County today tested positive with NO fever at present or in the recent past.  One just had body aches and chest pain, the other one had chest pain and diarrhea recently.  

So much for testing people for a fever as a quick and dirty check.

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13 hours ago, ghost_of_fl said:

A lot of industries and able to make adjustments to stay temporarily quarantined while still "getting the job done".  Improvise, adapt, overcome.  Perhaps certain industries are at fault for thinking it could never happen. 

I work in technology and I can tell you, we've been using remote connection technology for decades.   That doesn't apply to every industry, but IMO lots of business owners were caught with their pants down while enjoying their "summer homes" and they are at fault for the shutdown too. 

 

12 hours ago, jvi said:

the virus is the ONLY  REASON FOR  SHUT DOWN.  SAVING YOUR *** FROM DYING AND TO KEEP IT FROM KILLING YER FRIENDS AND FAMILY

𝚆𝚑𝚊𝚝 𝙸'𝚖 𝚜𝚊𝚢𝚒𝚗𝚐 𝚒𝚜, 𝚜𝚘𝚖𝚎 𝚘𝚏 𝚞𝚜 𝚠𝚑𝚘 𝚑𝚊𝚟𝚎 𝚐𝚘𝚘𝚍 𝚌𝚘𝚖𝚙𝚞𝚝𝚎𝚛 𝚜𝚔𝚒𝚕𝚕𝚜 𝙳𝙸𝙳𝙽'𝚃 𝙽𝙴𝙴𝙳 𝚃𝙾 𝚜𝚑𝚞𝚝 𝚍𝚘𝚠𝚗.  𝚆𝚎 𝚊𝚛𝚎 𝚠𝚘𝚛𝚔𝚒𝚗𝚐 𝚏𝚛𝚘𝚖 𝚑𝚘𝚖𝚎.  

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11 hours ago, ghost_of_fl said:

 

𝚆𝚑𝚊𝚝 𝙸'𝚖 𝚜𝚊𝚢𝚒𝚗𝚐 𝚒𝚜, 𝚜𝚘𝚖𝚎 𝚘𝚏 𝚞𝚜 𝚠𝚑𝚘 𝚑𝚊𝚟𝚎 𝚐𝚘𝚘𝚍 𝚌𝚘𝚖𝚙𝚞𝚝𝚎𝚛 𝚜𝚔𝚒𝚕𝚕𝚜 𝙳𝙸𝙳𝙽'𝚃 𝙽𝙴𝙴𝙳 𝚃𝙾 𝚜𝚑𝚞𝚝 𝚍𝚘𝚠𝚗.  𝚆𝚎 𝚊𝚛𝚎 𝚠𝚘𝚛𝚔𝚒𝚗𝚐 𝚏𝚛𝚘𝚖 𝚑𝚘𝚖𝚎.  

your last sentence was-imo lots of owners were caught with thier pants down and they are at fault for the shut down too,  THE BUG SHUT US DOWN

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On 5/12/2020 at 5:29 PM, Lord Summerisle said:

 

 

500,000 to 850,000 Spanish flu deaths in the US a century ago, and mostly forgotten within a few years. People died of flu. **** happens. It's only been resurrected lately in the public consciousness because it's the closest thing in recent American history to COVID-19. The Great Depression? Spoken of in hushed and terrible terms for 80+ something years.

Economic Disasters > Public Health Disasters (in America).

 

 

 

And while hundreds of thousands died, there was no lock down.  No panic. No toilet paper shortage, no....

People need to study history.

Instead of listening to idiot talking heads on TV. Which millions continue to do.  

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11 minutes ago, brad1 said:

And while hundreds of thousands died, there was no lock down.  No panic. No toilet paper shortage, no....

People need to study history.

Instead of listening to idiot talking heads on TV. Which millions continue to do.  

THERE WAS PANIC,  AND MAYBE A LOCK DOWN  WITH MODERN DOCTORS AND NURSES THE LOSS WOULD HAVE BEEN LESS   ps  wasnt a lot of TP THEN 

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11 minutes ago, jvi said:

THERE WAS PANIC,  AND MAYBE A LOCK DOWN  WITH MODERN DOCTORS AND NURSES THE LOSS WOULD HAVE BEEN LESS   ps  wasnt a lot of TP THEN 

Stop using all capital letters. 

My point was the situation was MUCH worse back then, and folks today think what is happening now is somehow something we have never gone through. And that is wrong. 

And all business did NOT close.  And no, they should not have closed.  

Civilization can not exist without people working. It can exist with a virus. I am sure you will tell me how horrible I am for thinking that. I just speak the truth.  

And stop the yelling

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33 minutes ago, brad1 said:

Stop using all capital letters. 

My point was the situation was MUCH worse back then, and folks today think what is happening now is somehow something we have never gone through. And that is wrong. 

And all business did NOT close.  And no, they should not have closed.  

Civilization can not exist without people working. It can exist with a virus. I am sure you will tell me how horrible I am for thinking that. I just speak the truth.  

And stop the yelling

the caps were accidental, if you see them again  read quietly..uncivilization could be the new current term perhaps...ps if I choose to use all caps you saying stop has NO EFFECT    ps no one living went thru the pandemic you refer to 

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7 hours ago, brad1 said:

And while hundreds of thousands died, there was no lock down.  No panic. No toilet paper shortage, no....

People need to study history.

Instead of listening to idiot talking heads on TV. Which millions continue to do.  

 

One mild observation: people of that era had a very different take on life and death to that which prevails today. This is not intended to imply that they didn't mourn individual deaths (the morbid late Victorian funereal fascination shows that they did), but in 1918 you are talking about a generation which, in America, was only 50 years removed from the Civil War (620,000 deaths), and in Europe and America, had just experienced WWI (117,000 American soldiers killed; an incredible estimated total death toll of 10 million military personnel and 10 million civilians for the conflict as a whole). An age before sulfa drugs, before penicillin, an age of high infant mortality, horrific childhood illnesses, and where getting your "three score years and ten" was generally regarded as an excellent and fortunate outcome to be celebrated.

We now live in age where we fully expect to live into our 80s or 90s on a cocktail of prescription medications.

I suspect to the people of 1918, the Spanish Flu was just another horrible wave of death, in an era where they were accustomed to the Grim Reaper spending a lot of time wielding his scythe.  No doubt it was shocking, but much less shocking than it would be to our generation. And COVID-19, though undoubtedly nasty, cannot hold a candle to the Spanish Flu. The experiments from a few years ago, involving macaque monkeys and the reconstructed virus, shocked the 21st researchers with just how brutally awful that virus was.

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1712 positive

40 deaths

Went to the grocery store to get a couple of things,I look over at the checkout and there's a guy who tested positive last week buying groceries. He was wearing a mask,but I don't give a flying fukk,stay the fukk home you fukkin idiot. I wanted to scream,while pointing my finger Virussssssssssss! Virusssssssssssss! Virusssssssssss! The fuk King moron works at the hospital. No brains No headaches.

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8 hours ago, brad1 said:

And while hundreds of thousands died, there was no lock down.  No panic. 

People need to study history.

 

No panic?   (!)

 

First death here in Australia yesterday for about a week (81yo off cruise ship), takes us to 98 deaths over the pandemic.

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8 hours ago, brad1 said:

And while hundreds of thousands died, there was no lock down.  No panic. No toilet paper shortage, no....

People need to study history.

Instead of listening to idiot talking heads on TV. Which millions continue to do.  

 

Well, now that we've heard from 2 "experts", let's hear what someone who was actually there thinks.  Hey Brad, got a Sears catalog?  I mean you could always go to their website and use the computer screen.... 

 

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7 hours ago, brad1 said:

Stop using all capital letters. 

My point was the situation was MUCH worse back then, and folks today think what is happening now is somehow something we have never gone through. And that is wrong. 

And all business did NOT close.  And no, they should not have closed.  

Civilization can not exist without people working. It can exist with a virus. I am sure you will tell me how horrible I am for thinking that. I just speak the truth.  

And stop the yelling

You are 10000% correct.  Time to go back to work.  Sadly, we are fighting many who thrive and make lots of money on “gloom and doom.”  So many of the people spreading the fear are in very high-paying jobs and they get their paychecks even if they don’t go to work.  These people are not stuck at home and facing the financial problems that people who depend on the economy for their jobs and family security.  They preach “We are all in this together.”  That’s bullshit!  They are not “us.”     We are all on the same stormy ocean, but we are in very different boats.  If the entire world economy goes into total collapse, the people pushing the fear will still have their jobs.........lWe cannot sit at home for months and expect all these millions of jobs to still be there.  We cannot expect hundreds-of-thousands of small businesses that survive on a month-to-month basis to survive,  If people don’t get back to work, things will be far worse than what people are worried and complaining about now.  We cannot buy-into the fear.  We cannot hide in our homes waiting for a vaccine that is perhaps years away.   Look at the flu vaccine—-it all depends on if the flu you come in contact with is the same kind of flu as the vaccine......For myself, I believe that in my country (USA) and others, things have begun to open and people are eager get going again.  Once things are opened-up, I don’t think people will accept being locked at home again.  Just my view.........Meanwhile, guitars help keep us mellow.

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5 hours ago, Mr. Gibson said:

1712 positive

40 deaths

Went to the grocery store to get a couple of things,I look over at the checkout and there's a guy who tested positive last week buying groceries. He was wearing a mask,but I don't give a flying fukk,stay the fukk home you fukkin idiot. I wanted to scream,while pointing my finger Virussssssssssss! Virusssssssssssss! Virusssssssssss! The fuk King moron works at the hospital. No brains No headaches.

I suggest you watch your language,  or you’ll get your own thread locked. 

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1 hour ago, fortyearspickn said:

I suggest you watch your language,  or you’ll get your own thread locked. 

Wouldn't be my first. Besides the people that argue endlessly to no end are the ones that get the threads locked. Ask KS Daddy. 

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In my spare time I've been keeping a spread sheet of the cases going on around me.  Yes, we're still dropping dead in these here parts.  Guys in their 30s and 40s are getting blood clots (one had his leg amputated), kids are showing up with Toxic Shock Sydrome-like symptoms, and the elderly and infirm are going toes up.

Next Friday my county goes into Code Yellow which means stay at home orders will be lifted.  Childcare centers and some retail shops can reopen and gatherings of up to 25 are allowed.  Telework should continue at business where it is possible.

Restaurants and bars will still be limited to takeout and delivery.  School buildings will remain closed, along with gyms, salons and theaters.  Visits to nursing homes and prisons will still be prohibited. 

We'll see how this goes.  My guess is the locals will act like everything is back to normal and this area will see a monster spike in cases which will lead to another lock down which the locals will ignore until we have numbers like NJ.

All I can say is that I am so glad that I'm married, own  a house and can telework.  I really feel the people in the cities, the service industry workers and the blue collar workers.  I can't imagine being a truck driver or a postal worker or a restaurant owner.  What do you do?

You can forget concerts this year, motorcycle rallies are out, the annual Central PA Beer Bash and Group Grope has been  put on hold,  it's just crazy.

You can see here how it's kind of oozed it's way across NY and NJ and then goes dead where it's just farmers and cornfields:

https://www.wgal.com/article/pennsylvania-counties-reopening-coronavirus/32343176#

The red areas are also where the college kids returned from Spring Break in Florida.

 

 

 

 
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