JuanCarlosVejar Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Folks. Check it out: JC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw3571 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Sounds great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Hey - this beauty sounds good. The caramelish back'n'sides/neck set it apart from the previous True Vintage/Vintage Hummingbirds and really make the whole thing come together. Would love to try one live and compare it to my own broken in non-torrefied darker B'n'S also darker logoless necked (yes, Gibson !) 2012 TVs. They'll be hard to match now, but the ex above is very alluring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 But if 'fixed bridge', , , what ain't fixed about this guitar. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle fester Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 (edited) I love this guitar, but was a fixed bridge offered back then (might have been in the video, but must missed it?). I'm torn between this and one of the new S Crowe CW as the current target of my GAS. Thank you for posting. Edited April 6, 2020 by uncle fester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, uncle fester said: I love this guitar, but was a fixed bridge offered back then (might have been in the video, but must missed it?). I'm torn between this and one of the new S Crowe CW as the current target of my GAS. Thank you for posting. By Kalamazoo - No it wasn't. Understand your dilemma de luxe. Sweet situation in sour times. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle fester Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 ty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw3571 Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Sounds really great, does anyone think it sounds better than one of the "normal" hummingbirds that is quite a bit cheaper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 This Bird has flown I tried to contact them during Easter and got no respons - 2 mails. It remained on their site, but must have been sold as soon as they re-opened the shop. Kind of relieved. Still this was one guitar I would have liked to meet live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimt Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) I own a couple 60s and 61s. 4 digit serial number Birds. One with the factory p90 And there adjustable bridge guitars. 2020 fixed bridge. Okay. I should of watched the Vid. 1960 ? Edited April 17, 2020 by slimt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanCarlosVejar Posted April 16, 2020 Author Share Posted April 16, 2020 On 4/6/2020 at 10:12 PM, jw3571 said: Sounds really great, does anyone think it sounds better than one of the "normal" hummingbirds that is quite a bit cheaper? Honestly I don’t think in terms of better or worse ... I think the standard hummingbird or the modern are great guitars but the historics (even if not 100 percent accurate) do capture a certain spirit present in the old ones. JC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 51 minutes ago, JuanCarlosVejar said: Honestly I don’t think in terms of better or worse ... I think the standard hummingbird or the modern are great guitars but the historics (even if not 100 percent accurate) do capture a certain spirit present in the old ones. Think you are right - there is an obvious bond both in feel and sound between the new Vintage Birds (squares) and the actual vintage ancestors. And though the modern versions differ a bit from ex to ex they can be absolutely stunning acoustics when broken in. Regarding the oldies, the best of them are simply heavenly. And not the slightest a hyped myth. The ceramic saddled cherry 1965 Southern Jumbo I played last year still blows my mind. Unfortunately it had the narrow neck., , , but my purse was happy. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw3571 Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Sorry man, I ended up buying it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 1 hour ago, jw3571 said: Sorry man, I ended up buying it. Hahe, , , you R djouking ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Thanks JCV ! Every time you post one of these I have to go take a cold shower ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 32 minutes ago, fortyearspickn said: Every time you post one of these I have to go take a cold shower ! Pardon. I came to late for the guitar - you come to late to the raining bath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 3 hours ago, E-minor7 said: Pardon. I came to late for the guitar - you come to late to the raining bath. So, here's a question for you. I went on Gibson's website to verify this characteristic for the new models, by the way. These new 'birds have scalloped top bracing. To the best of my knowledge, Gibson stopped scalloping top braces sometime in the mid-1950's. If that is correct, no 'bird before the Bozeman era would have had scalloped top bracing, and these modern versions may have a significantly different voice compared to a vintage 'bird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 41 minutes ago, j45nick said: So, here's a question for you. I went on Gibson's website to verify this characteristic for the new models, by the way. These new 'birds have scalloped top bracing. To the best of my knowledge, Gibson stopped scalloping top braces sometime in the mid-1950's. If that is correct, no 'bird before the Bozeman era would have had scalloped top bracing, and these modern versions may have a significantly different voice compared to a vintage 'bird. You are right. Check my second post from April 6. We have different nut-width, different braces (including back-b's) and the fixed saddle. 3 major factor in an acoustic guitar. Still it's fair to say they are connected like relatives - like a granddad is seen in his son's son, , , well, more than that. In other words : Gibson has done a good job in trying to create an updated modernized & loyal and 'image' of the mythological ancestor. Also soundwise. And perhaps came even closer when did a batch of sunburst 1967 SJ's a few years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 37 minutes ago, E-minor7 said: You are right. Check my second post from April 6. We have different nut-width, different braces (including back-b's) and the fixed saddle. 3 major factor in an acoustic guitar. Still it's fair to say they are connected like relatives - like a granddad is seen in his son's son, , , well, more than that. In other words : Gibson has done a good job in trying to create an updated modernized & loyal and 'image' of the mythological ancestor. Also soundwise. And perhaps came even closer when did a batch of sunburst 1967 SJ's a few years ago. Fair enough. It would be interesting to try to nail down the fundamental tonal differences between the scalloped and un-scalloped tops on the 'bird, if there are any. Unfortunately, you would need at least two of each kind for a valid comparison. I have two mahogany slope-Js with scalloped top braces ('06 1943 SJ re-issue, 1950 J-45) and another which is un-scalloped (1950 J-45 re-topped by Gibson in 1968). There is a close family resemblance between the three, but their voices also have unique qualities. The two scalloped-brace guitars are quite similar to each other tonally despite their 50+ year age differences, with the older guitar having a bit more sustain and projection. The un-scalloped guitar is a bit subdued and dry by comparison but nicely balanced with good note separation. Clearly siblings, but not identical triplets. The scalloped and un-scalloped 'birds may have similar family resemblances and differences. At the end of the day, all guitars are individuals, and we need to appreciate each for what it is, warts (if any) and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 17 minutes ago, j45nick said: At the end of the day, all guitars are individuals, and we need to appreciate each for what it is, warts (if any) and all. Though they don't hang on trees like apples and oranges, I have tried quite a lot the last ten years. 60's as new. They are highly different all together - with this square-DNA running between them over 3-4-5 decades (late 60s, all 70s, 80s uncounted). If they were more or less individuals from birth, my (empirical as intuitive) conclusion/feeling is that they grow even further apart with age. And sure - most if not all guitars have a weaker side you either live with or pass on. A good part of the game. jw3571 - did you really get the amber-wonder above. . ⁉️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw3571 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 I did end up buying it. Should be here next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, jw3571 said: I did end up buying it. Should be here next week. Terrific ▲ at least I now know where it is. We must talk about that guitar, , , and hear more of it. Can I begin already. . One of the Qs I asked mister Ravita in my mail was about the strings he had on in the film. Do you happen to know ? Congratulations Edited April 18, 2020 by E-minor7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw3571 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 I do not know what strings are on it, I'll see if it happens to have the box in the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 On 4/18/2020 at 9:03 PM, jw3571 said: I do not know what strings are on it, I'll see if it happens to have the box in the case. Thanx - you see, it could be a way to compare my own to the one flying to you as we speak. Would also be interested in seeing more pics. The guitar had this very amberrish look in the film, but appeared more conventional faded cherry on their site. Both stunning. Well, all in all just very curious about this Bird. Hope we'll be able to share your joy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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