epbadger Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Which would you pick? Gibson Les Paul Traditional Pro II 2013 or 2016 Gibson les paul standard. Both excellent condition. Buying as a gift, dont know all that much about guitars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01GT eibach Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 The 2016 Les Paul Standard is a higher level model and newer. So, if it is just between that and all other items are equal (condition, both come with HSC, bone stock, etc.) the Standard is an easy decision. And I say that as a Trad Pro owner who loves his Trad Pro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epbadger Posted April 23, 2020 Author Share Posted April 23, 2020 (edited) thank you for answering my stupid question lol. 2016 Standard bought!!! excellent/almost mint condition. $1500...I think I did good, yes? Edited April 23, 2020 by epbadger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01GT eibach Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Yes ... A Gibson Les Paul Standard can save your life, bro. Nicely done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Congrats on that std 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyC Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Any pictures of it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epbadger Posted April 23, 2020 Author Share Posted April 23, 2020 Having issues uploading pic. says to big a file... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 18 hours ago, epbadger said: Having issues uploading pic. says to big a file... Most of us use an image hosting site. I use IMGUR but there are others also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunking101 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 FYI there is no real difference between a 2019 LP Traditional and a 2019/2020 LP Standard. In fact the 2019 Traditional had a higher price tag upon release. But yes, regarding the two guitars in the OP's opening post, the 2016 Standard is the better guitar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 (edited) I owned a '14 Pro II and it was killer, but yes a STD will be just a touch nicer, but not by to much. But didn't the Trad's come along to be closer to what the STD's of the 50's were. No weight relief, I think was the big main difference. But Gibson doesn't do anything standard and I think some Trad's have relief now too. Edited April 24, 2020 by Sgt. Pepper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01GT eibach Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 On 4/24/2020 at 8:59 AM, Sgt. Pepper said: ... But didn't the Trad's come along to be closer to what the STD's of the 50's were? No weight relief, I think was the big main difference. But Gibson doesn't do anything standard and I think some Trad's have relief now too. I think it was the now-defunct Traditional model that was non-weight-relieved which was supposed to be like an old Les Paul. But the Trad Pro was different than that which was intended to be like a "modified old Les Paul" model and also sold only through Guitar Center. There were lots of variants of the Trad Pros, but I thought they all shared: antique binding, 60s neck, uncovered zebra pickups, high-gloss top with satin sides/back, PLEK setup, coil taps, and 9-hole weight relief (non chambered). Then the different Trad Pro model (depending on which variant) came with different top-shelf Gibson pickups, flame or plain maple top, passive or battery-boost, regular Grovers or locking Grovers, MoP logo or sticker, and (on some) the ability to select the specific coil when in coil-tap mode. With the brand-new Trad Pro V out this year, this current edition comes in two flavors: satin plain top or flame top (and separated by a shocking $700 in price) , and both with new "Tradbucker" pickups which reek of a cost-cutting cheaper pickup instead of the previous major model pickups previously offered. I have a 2010 Trad Pro so that is why I know more details about this model than I do other Les Paul models. But that is how I see it anyway ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunking101 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 On 4/24/2020 at 3:59 PM, Sgt. Pepper said: But didn't the Trad's come along to be closer to what the STD's of the 50's were. No weight relief, I think was the big main difference. But Gibson doesn't do anything standard and I think some Trad's have relief now too. The 2019 Les Paul Traditional had no weight relief, vintage tuners, Burstbucker 1 & 2 pickups ,orange drop capacitors and a 50s neck. Sound familar? They're the exact spec of a 2019/20 Original Series 50's Les Paul Standard. The only difference is that the 50s Standard has thinner neck binding. The Traditiomal also cost more when released, £2200 here in the UK. The 50s Standard is £1999. Go figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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