Tlgptru Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 A friend of mine contacted me about a gibson les paul custom, he is struggling to id this guitar. The owner says guitar was made between 1968-1972. It has sprague black beauty caps. The headstock heavily damaged. And serial is not clear but i think 5705203. Hope u help me. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tlgptru Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 Here is the photos of the guitar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdgm Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Google images: https://www.google.com/search?q=1968-1972+les+paul+custom&client=firefox-b-d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiXxq_4kNTqAhXzSxUIHZzVBl0Q_AUoAnoECA4QBA&biw=1920&bih=1086#imgrc=DGq_Efp0JrputM From what can be seen - which isn't enough - it looks about right (and that's a typical Gibson headstock break) but the pickups have either been changed or had the covers removed. If your friend is thinking about buying it it would need to be pretty cheap as fixing up that headstock will cost...and even then it will always be a LP with a headstock repair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 I would be suggesting that he moves on from this one unless he's buying it for dirt cheap money. that repair job was a train wreck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tlgptru Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 what do you think about the serial number? Is it suspicious that serial is 7 digit number? I m not sure but i think it suppose to be 6 digits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grog Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 It should have six numbers only until 1975, when they went to an oval decal. Is he able to read the pot codes? That would help narrow it down. 1376929 is the pot code on my ‘69 Les Paul Deluxe. The pot was made the 29th week of 1969. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tlgptru Posted July 19, 2020 Author Share Posted July 19, 2020 16 hours ago, Grog said: It should have six numbers only until 1975, when they went to an oval decal. Is he able to read the pot codes? That would help narrow it down. 1376929 is the pot code on my ‘69 Les Paul Deluxe. The pot was made the 29th week of 1969. Thank you it really helped. It has very similar pot code. 1376902 . It looks like the guitar is original 69 custom. But the 7 digit headstock serial number is still confusing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grog Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 That would make it an early 1969! It’s hard to say why it has an extra number in it’s serial #. It has over 50 years of history to tell. Is one of the numbers obviously off center? Could it have been stolen at one point? The serial # might have been altered to make it more difficult to trace........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tlgptru Posted July 19, 2020 Author Share Posted July 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Grog said: That would make it an early 1969! It’s hard to say why it has an extra number in it’s serial #. It has over 50 years of history to tell. Is one of the numbers obviously off center? Could it have been stolen at one point? The serial # might have been altered to make it more difficult to trace........ Thank you so much. That really make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eracer_Team Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 With the crack repair in the back of the headstock, I'd almost say head was replaced from another guitar. That would account for oddball serial number Just guessing out loud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tlgptru Posted July 19, 2020 Author Share Posted July 19, 2020 44 minutes ago, Eracer_Team said: With the crack repair in the back of the headstock, I'd almost say head was replaced from another guitar. That would account for oddball serial number Just guessing out loud At first i thought the same way, but the previous owner said that the guitar might be stolen 30 years ago. So it explains 7 number serial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grog Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Taking away either the first or the last number, it still doesn’t fall exactly in 1969 on this list. Gibson serial numbers can be all over the place.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eracer_Team Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 7 hours ago, Tlgptru said: At first i thought the same way, but the previous owner said that the guitar might be stolen 30 years ago. So it explains 7 number serial Stolen would not account for a extra digit in the serial number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tlgptru Posted July 20, 2020 Author Share Posted July 20, 2020 5 hours ago, Eracer_Team said: Stolen would not account for a extra digit in the serial number. I think putting extra number in serial number is easy than putting another headstock. Neck wound matches with the headstock wound so i think headstock replacement is less possible than adding extra digit to serial number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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