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6 hours ago, Notes_Norton said:

My first guitar was a used GIbson ES-330

Years later, not wanting to play outdoor gigs with it I bought an Epiphone Casino

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For some reason it won't let me insert the image. ;(

The link doesn't work for me, perhaps the access rights for the  /pix/  directory isn't set for sharing..

My Hawks have been my favorite for sound, versatility, ease of playing and hum cancelling. When I realized that my Gibson Blues Hawk needed be upgraded to be able to keep up with the Epiphone Blueshawk, I decided to leave it stock and let it go. It was a sad day.. But I use the Blueshawks as a model for building my guitars.

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On 10/13/2020 at 5:40 PM, mihcmac said:

The link doesn't work for me, perhaps the access rights for the  /pix/  directory isn't set for sharing..

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My bad. Probably the only picture I don't have in the pix folder. It was from a long time ago, when I was new at being a "webmaster".

BTW,  I really like your Hawks. It's one guitar I'd really like to try but they don't make them anymore.

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3 hours ago, Notes_Norton said:

BTW,  I really like your Hawks. It's one guitar I'd really like to try but they don't make them anymore.

 

A very nice pair to draw to. Also I notice you have the more rare 330 with the 335 style neck length, very cool.

The Blueshawk's 25.5" scale neck is part of the formula with the longer string, I think giving it a clean deep sound, maybe...

Below the winner of my personal Blueshawk contest, the 2015 Epiphone version. Generally a better build than the Gibson version with slight improvements. Like the P90 Pro's sound more like real P90's than the watered down Gibson Blues 90's, the hum-cancelling is better, the neck is mounted about 1/16" farther out board and the Tenon is shaped slightly different allowing for easier access to the high notes.

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The only flaw with the Epi version is that the bridge is mounted in too short of a position, making it hard to intonate the low E. If necessary the fix is simple, just take off the bridge, plug the holes an move farther back about an 1/8", while still covering the old holes. Then the saddles have plenty of space for intonation.

If you look closely you can see that the Gibson Blues Hawk bridge is mounted farther away from the PU than on the "Epiphone with the saddle spring fully compressed", making for better intonation adjustment on the Gibson.

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The most common upgrade on the Gibson Blues Hawk is to replace the Blues 90s with standard Gibson P90's, with the neck position having a reverse coil.

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The wiring on the Epi (top) and Gibson (below) make all the same connections, in addition all of the components are spec'd exactly the same.

The Epi does tend to have a little more excess wire.

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I like 25.5 scale better. I like to play high a lot and my fingers must be fat or my technique in need of improvement ;) so it's much easier with the longer scale.

I don't like Fenders because they tend to have a shorter radius. I have no trouble with barre chords, and I like to bend strings a lot so a 14" radius is perfect for me.

My compromise is my custom shop Parker Dragonfly/Maxxfly DF522NN (NN for Notes Norton). The pickups are Duncan P-Rails with triple shot rings. They give me very good P90 tones, decent rail tones and very good series or parallel humbucker tones. Plus there is a pizeo under the bridge so I can blend it with the magnetic pickups. It's a 'swiss army knife' of guitars. I've posted this picture before.

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It's my gigging guitar. At least 90% of the time I use the P90 setting. It's a little brighter than an soap bar but close enough for rock and roll.

BTW, how much do your hawks weigh?

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One of the main things I like about my RG421 is the flat finger board, it is supposed to have a 25.5" scale neck but mine is actually 25.625". I think the longer 25.5" scale provides a deeper thicker and perhaps cleaner tone, which I also experience with my Blueshawks and the G&L Tele. But, possibly the real magic is the way P90's respond to long scale strings.

I really enjoy the way it sounds through Valves..

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I seem to be finding P90's and Tubes really go well together.

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Because my Ibanez came with 4 wire PU's and a 5 way switch, it was easier to replace the wiring with a Telecaster wiring harness with a 3 way switch and single coil quick connects for the Mean 90's. The deluxe harness from GFS required no soldering, was fully assembled, with 3 way switch, two 500k pots, .047uf Purple Polypro Cap, bridge ground wire, 1/4" connector jack and PU quick connects. Not much to do, just install, plug in and it works great..

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