cc whiskey Posted September 12, 2020 Posted September 12, 2020 I just purchased a limited edition white dove pro acustic from guitar center ,what makes this model limited? Number avaliable? Time frame for sale ? Quote
QuestionMark Posted September 12, 2020 Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) I would think it means it’s not part of their regularly scheduled annual production run guitar models that are widely available. But, rather a one time production run of a guitar model with limited distribution until they are sold out. For example. I have an Epiphone EL-00 Pro guitar that has been in regular production for a number of years with a solid spruce top with a vintage sunburst finish on its top and dark mahogany sides. It was widely available at numerous stores and if a store didn’t have one, they could order one from Epiphone. Or, I could just go to a different store and find the same guitar. I also have a Limited Run Epiphone EL-00 Pro solid mahogony top guitar with a natural mahogony finish on its top and sides. The limited run version was a small special run version that was not widely available at all stores and when it’s special small run was sold out, unlike its regular run solid spruce top and sunburst version, it could not just be re-ordered by a store from Epiphone. And, not all different stores had them. In the situation of the EL-00 Pro Mahogony Limited Run Mahogony finish, it was also stamped/decalled Limited Run on the back of its neck and on the inside label. The stamp/decal on the back of the neck, resembles Gibson’s Custom Shop stamp/decal except it says Limited Run. (Which is kind of cool). So, the description basically means it’s not one of Epiphone’s standard annually scheduled production guitars, but a special limited run version. I am not sure there are any other hard and fast guidelines, although maybe someone else is aware of some. I suspect, because of the similarity of the stamp/decal on the back of the neck, it’s Epiphone’s version of Gibson’s Custom Shop. Meaning it’s a special limited manufacturing run one way or another, that differs from its standard run. It’s a marketing ploy for sure, but since the limited editions are basically different someway than the standard versions and built in a limited and smaller quantity than the standard versions, and once they are sold, they are gone, it makes the guitar kind of unique/special and harder to find. I know in the case of my EL-00 Pro Limited Edition Mahogony guitar, it has a similar shape and similar feel as my standard spruce top EL-00 Pro, but yet has its own feel and sound that differs from the standard model. Plus, it weighs a couple of pounds more than the standard model, I assume because of its different wood. (It’s neck may also be ever so slightly thicker than the standard model, although that one I am still on the fence/undecided about.) That’s my take on it. QM aka “Jazzman” Jeff Edited September 12, 2020 by QuestionMark 1 Quote
Ceptorman Posted September 13, 2020 Posted September 13, 2020 21 hours ago, QuestionMark said: I would think it means it’s not part of their regularly scheduled annual production run guitar models that are widely available. But, rather a one time production run of a guitar model with limited distribution until they are sold out. For example. I have an Epiphone EL-00 Pro guitar that has been in regular production for a number of years with a solid spruce top with a vintage sunburst finish on its top and dark mahogany sides. It was widely available at numerous stores and if a store didn’t have one, they could order one from Epiphone. Or, I could just go to a different store and find the same guitar. I also have a Limited Run Epiphone EL-00 Pro solid mahogony top guitar with a natural mahogony finish on its top and sides. The limited run version was a small special run version that was not widely available at all stores and when it’s special small run was sold out, unlike its regular run solid spruce top and sunburst version, it could not just be re-ordered by a store from Epiphone. And, not all different stores had them. In the situation of the EL-00 Pro Mahogony Limited Run Mahogony finish, it was also stamped/decalled Limited Run on the back of its neck and on the inside label. The stamp/decal on the back of the neck, resembles Gibson’s Custom Shop stamp/decal except it says Limited Run. (Which is kind of cool). So, the description basically means it’s not one of Epiphone’s standard annually scheduled production guitars, but a special limited run version. I am not sure there are any other hard and fast guidelines, although maybe someone else is aware of some. I suspect, because of the similarity of the stamp/decal on the back of the neck, it’s Epiphone’s version of Gibson’s Custom Shop. Meaning it’s a special limited manufacturing run one way or another, that differs from its standard run. It’s a marketing ploy for sure, but since the limited editions are basically different someway than the standard versions and built in a limited and smaller quantity than the standard versions, and once they are sold, they are gone, it makes the guitar kind of unique/special and harder to find. I know in the case of my EL-00 Pro Limited Edition Mahogony guitar, it has a similar shape and similar feel as my standard spruce top EL-00 Pro, but yet has its own feel and sound that differs from the standard model. Plus, it weighs a couple of pounds more than the standard model, I assume because of its different wood. (It’s neck may also be ever so slightly thicker than the standard model, although that one I am still on the fence/undecided about.) That’s my take on it. QM aka “Jazzman” Jeff Jeff, you sure have a wealth of knowledge, very impressive, and you sure don't mind sharing....thanks for all you do on here. 1 Quote
QuestionMark Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 Your kind words are appreciated... QM aka “Jazzman” Jeff Quote
Zippydog Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 On 9/13/2020 at 4:58 PM, Ceptorman said: On 9/12/2020 at 6:57 PM, QuestionMark said: I would think it means it’s not part of their regularly scheduled annual production run guitar models that are widely available. But, rather a one time production run of a guitar model with limited distribution until they are sold out. For example. I have an Epiphone EL-00 Pro guitar that has been in regular production for a number of years with a solid spruce top with a vintage sunburst finish on its top and dark mahogany sides. It was widely available at numerous stores and if a store didn’t have one, they could order one from Epiphone. Or, I could just go to a different store and find the same guitar. I also have a Limited Run Epiphone EL-00 Pro solid mahogony top guitar with a natural mahogony finish on its top and sides. The limited run version was a small special run version that was not widely available at all stores and when it’s special small run was sold out, unlike its regular run solid spruce top and sunburst version, it could not just be re-ordered by a store from Epiphone. And, not all different stores had them. In the situation of the EL-00 Pro Mahogony Limited Run Mahogony finish, it was also stamped/decalled Limited Run on the back of its neck and on the inside label. The stamp/decal on the back of the neck, resembles Gibson’s Custom Shop stamp/decal except it says Limited Run. (Which is kind of cool). So, the description basically means it’s not one of Epiphone’s standard annually scheduled production guitars, but a special limited run version. I am not sure there are any other hard and fast guidelines, although maybe someone else is aware of some. I suspect, because of the similarity of the stamp/decal on the back of the neck, it’s Epiphone’s version of Gibson’s Custom Shop. Meaning it’s a special limited manufacturing run one way or another, that differs from its standard run. It’s a marketing ploy for sure, but since the limited editions are basically different someway than the standard versions and built in a limited and smaller quantity than the standard versions, and once they are sold, they are gone, it makes the guitar kind of unique/special and harder to find. I know in the case of my EL-00 Pro Limited Edition Mahogony guitar, it has a similar shape and similar feel as my standard spruce top EL-00 Pro, but yet has its own feel and sound that differs from the standard model. Plus, it weighs a couple of pounds more than the standard model, I assume because of its different wood. (It’s neck may also be ever so slightly thicker than the standard model, although that one I am still on the fence/undecided about.) That’s my take on it. QM aka “Jazzman” Jeff Hey JJ, I have the same Ltd. Edition EL-00 Pro in natural finish as well. Do you have any idea how many were made? I love that little guitar. Quote
QuestionMark Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Zippydog said: Hey JJ, I have the same Ltd. Edition EL-00 Pro in natural finish as well. Do you have any idea how many were made? I love that little guitar. No clue how many were made, but it is a really great sounding, great playing, high quality, and great looking guitar. Far exceeded my expectations. I notice a number of other manufacturers (Including Fender and PRS) are now putting out a very similar natural finish mahogany 00 shaped guitar. I haven’t played those, but they look similar. Makes me wonder if they are from the same Indonesia factory. They also have higher prices than when Epiphone did their limited model a few years, ago. My EL-00 Pro Natural Mahogony Limited Edition has become one of my favorite guitars! QM aka “Jazzman” Jeff Quote
Zippydog Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 3 hours ago, QuestionMark said: No clue how many were made, but it is a really great sounding, great playing, high quality, and great looking guitar. Far exceeded my expectations. I notice a number of other manufacturers (Including Fender and PRS) are now putting out a very similar natural finish mahogany 00 shaped guitar. I haven’t played those, but they look similar. Makes me wonder if they are from the same Indonesia factory. They also have higher prices than when Epiphone did their limited model a few years, ago. My EL-00 Pro Natural Mahogony Limited Edition has become one of my favorite guitars! QM aka “Jazzman” Jeff It is a great little guitar and I don’t think a lot were purchased in the US maybe in other countries? When I looked into buying one in late 2015, my local Guitar Center was able to locate just one and it was the only one so I ordered it. When I got it, I was pretty amazed at the quality of the build. The only thing I have done to it is replace the saddle and nut with bone versions, de-glossed the finish to satin and swapped the pick guard to an ivory color to match the binding. OP, I would love to see a picture of your white Dove Pro if that is possible. Quote
QuestionMark Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Zippydog said: It is a great little guitar and I don’t think a lot were purchased in the US maybe in other countries? When I looked into buying one in late 2015, my local Guitar Center was able to locate just one and it was the only one so I ordered it. When I got it, I was pretty amazed at the quality of the build. The only thing I have done to it is replace the saddle and nut with bone versions, de-glossed the finish to satin and swapped the pick guard to an ivory color to match the binding. OP, I would love to see a picture of your white Dove Pro if that is possible. I wouldn’t mind seeing the original poster’s white Dove Pro either. I hope he posts a photo. In the meanwhile, here’s a link to me playing my EL-00 Pro Natural Mahogony Limited Edition guitar. The only modification I made on it was to remove the synthetic bone saddle that came it and instead put in a tight fitting high density/high quality tusq saddle.. And, put ebony wooden bridge pins instead of the stock plastic factory pins. Also, though In the video I’m playing it acoustic, when I gig I use a Fishman Rare Earth Humbucker sound hole pickup rather than the buiit in Sonic pickup. I bought the guitar used abs had a really hard time finding one, but luckily I located one. Bonded to it immediately. Mine had no E in the pickguard. It must have fallen off or been taken off by the prior owner. Here the link: Enjoy the music on the EL-00 Pro Natural Mahogony LTD Edition. QM aka “Jazzman” Jeff Edited September 18, 2020 by QuestionMark Quote
Zippydog Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 Thank you sir for the mini concert featuring your EL-00. Really enjoyed listening while eating my breakfast this morning. You and your EL sounded great. Cheers! Ron aka “Zippydog” Quote
Ceptorman Posted September 28, 2020 Posted September 28, 2020 On 9/17/2020 at 9:19 PM, QuestionMark said: I wouldn’t mind seeing the original poster’s white Dove Pro either. I hope he posts a photo. In the meanwhile, here’s a link to me playing my EL-00 Pro Natural Mahogony Limited Edition guitar. The only modification I made on it was to remove the synthetic bone saddle that came it and instead put in a tight fitting high density/high quality tusq saddle.. And, put ebony wooden bridge pins instead of the stock plastic factory pins. Also, though In the video I’m playing it acoustic, when I gig I use a Fishman Rare Earth Humbucker sound hole pickup rather than the buiit in Sonic pickup. I bought the guitar used abs had a really hard time finding one, but luckily I located one. Bonded to it immediately. Mine had no E in the pickguard. It must have fallen off or been taken off by the prior owner. Here the link: Enjoy the music on the EL-00 Pro Natural Mahogony LTD Edition. QM aka “Jazzman” Jeff Very nice playing Jazzman, great guitar sound. Quote
zombywoof Posted October 3, 2020 Posted October 3, 2020 (edited) Whoa. My first impression was that the mahogany top EL-00 is the only version of that model I have actually liked since the Bluesmaster. Then again, your playing may just be bringing something out in that particular take on a Gibson I have never been able to. You arrangements done Ray Bradbury proud. Me, I have been throwing a whole bunch of Lonnie Johnson licks into a blender and see what comes out. Edited October 3, 2020 by zombywoof Quote
QuestionMark Posted October 4, 2020 Posted October 4, 2020 Zippydog, Ceptorman, Zombywoof- Glad you enjoyed hearing the the guitar and my guitar playing on it! QM aka "Jazzman" Jeff Quote
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