bobouz Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Olive said: But the main question remain. Nobody know any guitar company maker in the 70th who would put the logo of Gibson on the headstock and ingrave a serial number very close from the Gibson serial number style. I would say the probability is greater that an individual with repair/restoration skills modified the instrument. Japanese makers were not known to engage in such deception, as they were invested in establishing legitimate worldwide distribution structures for their products. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBSinTo Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 This could have been much worse. Olive admits the guitar has a nice voice, so while he undoubtedly overpaid for what he believed he was getting versus what he got, it is still a good player, despite its true lineage. Half a loaf is better than none. RBSinTo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Van Perfek Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Hi, I'm located near Montreal and I just got screwed by this same individual (same number and name). Sold me what was supposed to be a 50s Les Paul Special, turns out it is a fake/counterfeit. I tried getting hold of him, he wont answer calls, emails or texts. I will try to alert Kijiji but not sure what I can do otherwise. Michel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 On 10/29/2020 at 3:32 PM, bobouz said: The trussrod utilizing a metric Allen wrench tells you all you need to know. This guitar is a fake & was not built in Kalamazoo by Gibson. Where it actually was built is rather a moot point. If you ever choose to sell it, simply be honest & list it as a ‘Gibson Copy’. This! ^--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 (edited) End of the story : Hey everyone ! Okay, so I decided to sand the «Gibson» logo on the headstock and surprise ... it was a sticker put a long time ago and vernish. Was a nice job but it was easy to remove. Behind the sticker there was no name. The crown is a real inlay and is still there on the headstock. I also took off the fake label inside so now it is no more a fake / conterfeit Gibson guitar. It's just an vintage no name and beautiful acoustic guitar. For Christmas 2020, I gave it to a charity group for young people here in Gatineau hoping it would help in the community. Stay save and happy new year to all of you. Olive Edited January 3, 2021 by Olive 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxum Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 I'd contact the police. That's 2 guitars, probably both combined close to $5000 Can. and that's just the two people who caught on to the scheme, could be dozens more out there getting scammed also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 On 1/3/2021 at 5:54 PM, Olive said: End of the story : For Christmas 2020, I gave it to a charity group for young people here in Gatineau hoping it would help in the community. Hat's off ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted April 19, 2021 Author Share Posted April 19, 2021 thx E-minor7. I called the police but nothing happen ... The best thing I did was to write this post as is if you're searching for James Savey on google, you'll find this post and you'll his phone number. Cheers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYC Dave Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 I've been eyeing Doves - played a 1968 model a friend has and it sounds beautiful but my impression is they don't all sound like that. That plus (a) the high prices they're fetching these days and (b) Olive's bittersweet tale has me a bit nervous about buying one online. In particuIar, I've noticed that a lot of the Doves on Reverb seem to be shipping from Japan, which I gather is the source of a lot of the fakes. I know at one point Gibson tried to outsmart the 'clone' market in the East by partnering with a Japanese company to produce and sell "Orville by Gibson" guitars over there, including a Dove model. The headstock reads "Orville" in Gibson-y script. Has anyone played one of these? Would be interested in how they feel and sound as they seem to go for quite a bit less - also a fair bet that no one has counterfeited the Orvilles... Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted December 11, 2023 Author Share Posted December 11, 2023 Hello People, Three years later, i found the real name of the seller (liar and thief) of my fake Gibson Dove. His real name is John Cihelka and he lives in St-Adolphe d'Howard province of Québec. Sometimes, he call himself Frank, George, Jean or Del Monaco. He is selling his fake gears between Montréal / Ottawa / Winsor area. There is many complain on this man on kijiji. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Olive said: Hello People, Three years later, i found the real name of the seller (liar and thief) of my fake Gibson Dove. His real name is John Cihelka and he lives in St-Adolphe d'Howard province of Québec. Sometimes, he call himself Frank, George, Jean or Del Monaco. He is selling his fake gears between Montréal / Ottawa / Winsor area. There is many complain on this man on kijiji. Cheers Splendid work, Olive 🎖️ Keep all senses awake , , , , and take a good long weekend. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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