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90th anniversary 1985 Gibson J-35 Square Shoulder. What the heck is this thing?


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So I've been offered a trade of (my) taylor for this gibson j-35. It's a 90th anniversary edition built in Nashville in the fall of '84 for the 85' calendar year. I've found posts over the net about the j-30, j-45, etc that yes, 90th anniversary run did exist and was rather limited, but less about the j-35.

 

This also has a unique paint job, is square shouldered (from what I gather was basically a copy of the dove's they made at the time). I've also read about the humidity issues and quality issues at this time. I'm also not 100% sure this is all solid wood or not.

 

What is a fair market value for this guitar? I'm quite interested in this trade, but really don't want to get into this gibson just for the name to find this isn't desired/won't hold it's value if I want to sell at some point.

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Hmmmm, , , have you investigated the bracing on this semi-oldie ?                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        What would be good to know is whether it's single or double X-braced and how thick/thin/scalloped the top braces are.                                                                                                                                                                                                   Small mirror and mini flash-lite required. Down they go. . 

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12 minutes ago, E-minor7 said:

Hmmmm, , , have you investigated the bracing on this semi-oldie ?                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        What would be good to know is whether it's single or double X-braced and how thick/thin/scalloped the top braces are.                                                                                                                                                                                                   Small mirror and mini flash-lite required. Down they go. . 

Is there a diagram or tip you can give me about single vs double x? and which one is more desire-able? 

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7 minutes ago, Tomcruiseiscraz said:

 

Does that guide have one for j-35? It's so odd the j-35 isn't listed many places. If their numbers are high then this j-35 might be closer to $1k true value...

Only 2012-2018 @ $1,125-$1,450

Reverb only lists the model back to 1994 with this selling history

Transaction History

New
Date Condition Sold Price
1/15/2021 Excellent $1,550
12/30/2020 Very Good $1,548.16
12/23/2020 Excellent $1,540
12/23/2020 Very Good $1,275
12/22/2020 Excellent $1,500
12/22/2020 Excellent $1,599
12/13/2020 Excellent $1,169.29
12/12/2020 Excellent $1,650
11/28/2020 Excellent $1,400
11/25/2020 Excellent $1,275
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I'm 99% sure that would be an all-solid guitar. It's unlike anything I've seen before and could well have been a custom order. It's cool as all hell! I love maple Dreads, and used a '95 Dove for most of my last album. This J35 is right up my street...as far as used market value goes, I'd expect to see it sell in the UK for £16/1700.

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I would be curious to know about the bracing as well.  The story, as much as I have been able to piece it together, was that in 1984 Plant Manager Jim Deurloo  pretty  much made the call to return the acoustics to older specs.  Gone was the infamous Double X bracing" and with it the return of the slope shoulder J45 and such. These were the last guitars to be built in Kalamazoo with the old Daylight Factory turning out only acoustics and serving as a repair shop.  Deurloo and most of Gibsons experienced builders though refused to make the move to  Nashville.  Apparently the Nashville Plant was also ill suited for building acoustics not having the proper environmental controls.  Adding to Gibson's woes was Norlin was losing money hand over fist and in 1985 was subject to a hostile takeover by the bunch which also owned Piezo electronics and which  immediately put the music division up for sale.  

So for me a 1985 Gibson is a total mystery.  Were they built going with Deurloo's design or return to older Norlin specs.  

 

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