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I've had one since last summer.  If it broke tomorrow I'd be out and back with another one in a few hours.  When we are done this stupid pandemic and can get back out I'll be getting another.

Great amp.

rct

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Cool looking forward to hearing how well it works. 

As I understand it, what Fender did was take their DSP (from the Mustang series of amps) and locked it down to one amp model.   And they optimised that model by selecting hardware that makes it sound as much like the vintage amp as possible.   IMO nobody models vintage Fender amps like Fender.   And they are lightweight enough to save your back from lifting.  

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My brother in law just got one and loves it. I went to a music shop to see if I could lift one with one finger - yup. I just smiled knowingly at the assistant. I thought it didn't have a drive/lead channel but it might've called something else?

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I pinged RCT a few days ago as I knew he had one, and based on his reply (not surprised  it was a good review), trotted down to try one out.  dam!

The one at the store was on hold, so I ordered  a blonde one. 

If the winds are right, it'll be here today.  

I have a mustang III V1,  to my ears THESE are superior, yea the mustang does A LOT, but when you don't need a lot, you got this. 

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Mustang v1 is pretty old (I have one too).  The DSP was updated for v2 and then again with Mustang GT/LT.   I don't think anyone comes close to the Fender DSP other than really expensive stuff like AxeFX.  Of course that is a matter of opinion.  I'm not a big fan of Line 6. 

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I own the original, black covered one. I like it a lot for all of the above stated reasons, but I am now a little disappointed that Fender has made so many changes. I understand that I can get an update to the software, and I assume that means taking it in to a certified dealership, the closest being an hour away. I may just leave it as is.

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1 hour ago, zigzag said:

I understand that I can get an update to the software, and I assume that means taking it in to a certified dealership, the closest being an hour away. I may just leave it as is.

Nah, you can update your Tonemaster yourself just like the Mustang series.  It just doesn't have wifi support, you need a computer:

Firmware Update Procedure:
  1. Download and unzip desired firmware version at the top of this article.
  2. Locate the micro-USB port and firmware update button on the underside of the amplifier chassis beneath the OUTPUT POWER section.
  3. Power on the amplifier while holding the firmware update button for at least 3 seconds.
  4. Once booted (approximately 10-15 seconds), the firmware update LED next to micro-USB port will slowly blink to indicate that the amp is in firmware update mode. The power jewel located on the front of the chassis will also cycle between amber and red.
  5. Connect a USB data cable from the Tone Master amplifier to your MAC or PC. USB Charging cables may not work if data lines are not connected.
  6. The amplifier will appear on your computer as a mass storage device named FENDER_AMP (similar to USB flash and external hard drives)
  7. Drag and drop the firmware update .img file onto the FENDER_AMP folder.
  8. The Update LED will blink quickly to indicate the update is being applied, this process should continue for approximately 30-60 seconds.
  9. Once the update has completed successfully the firmware update LED will stop blinking and remain ON and the amplifier will auto eject from the computer. Note some MAC user may receive a Disk Not Ejected Properly message.  This is normal and not an error.
  10. If update was successful, disconnect the USB cable and power cycle the amplifier to return to normal operation.
  11. If the update was unsuccessful, the firmware update LED will stop blinking and remain OFF. Power cycle the amplifier and repeat update procedure beginning at step 3.

Link: https://support.fender.com/hc/en-us/articles/360048863611-Tone-Master-Deluxe-Reverb-Firmware-Upgrade-Procedure

Instructions for the Twin model here:

https://support.fender.com/hc/en-us/articles/360048863671-Tone-Master-Twin-Reverb-Firmware-Upgrade-Procedure-

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Excellent! Thanks, gof. I'll look into that.

Edit:  Got the link provided and checked it out... seems easy enough. After spending a lot of time tonite with my black covered DR listening to the areas of interest with new firmware, I think I'm gonna keep it right where it is. Sounds great to me. Maybe some other time.

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On 2/11/2021 at 9:08 PM, ghost_of_fl said:

Have you found the output power selector is useful?   

 

I was checking some pickups today so I did fool with the attenuation.  It's ok, I can see using it for recording that just broken Fender clean sound without alienating anyone.  Other than that, not of any use for me.

rct

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2 hours ago, rct said:

 

I was checking some pickups today so I did fool with the attenuation.  It's ok, I can see using it for recording that just broken Fender clean sound without alienating anyone.  Other than that, not of any use for me.

rct

the 7 watt setting on the attenuator with the volume on just about 5 thickens it up a bit,  you can hear it when you hit that threshold when start to push a tube amp and that natural compression occurs. 

2 hours ago, Sgt. Pepper said:

Hendrix and Rory Gallagher did need no software.

Software when these guys roamed the earth was slippers and pajamas.   so...   From what I've read the firmware updates have been quite useful for these amps. (Black Version)   Tames the reverb and changes some of the top end characteristics that seem to come into play when using OD pedals.   The amps really do sound insanely good.  But if that improves it, why not? 

 

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You need to buy a 100 Watt to be equivalent to a 30 Watt Tube Amp. 50 Watt for 25 Watt Tube Amp & 25 Watt for 12 Watt Tube Amp. I like the lower price & lighter weight.. They’re good looking but I still think they sound shrill. I’ll stay with my Tube Amps.. 

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9 hours ago, Larsongs said:

You need to buy a 100 Watt to be equivalent to a 30 Watt Tube Amp. 50 Watt for 25 Watt Tube Amp & 25 Watt for 12 Watt Tube Amp. I like the lower price & lighter weight.. They’re good looking but I still think they sound shrill. I’ll stay with my Tube Amps.. 

I know, I have a buncha tube amps and a few solid state amps prior to acquiring the Deluxe Reverb. 

Solid states are great till you push them, but there's none of that going on with the Fender Tone Master Deluxe.  I'm amazed and delighted with how this amp sounds.  seems a game changer to my ears.  

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2 minutes ago, kidblast said:

...Solid states are great till you push them...

Exactly.  The volume knob becomes your worst enemy most of the time with this kind of amp.  That was my main criteria, get it home, wind it out in my environment, have a rehearsal with the drummer and wind it out over there, make sure it could hack actual playing volume and not just sitting one foot from it volume.  It does, very well it does.  HooRay!  Quiet volume out of something lightweight.  It's like new sliced bread or something.

rct

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2 minutes ago, kidblast said:

I know, I have a buncha tube amps and a few solid state amps prior to acquiring the Deluxe Reverb. 

Solid states are great till you push them, but there's none of that going on with the Fender Tone Master Deluxe.  I'm amazed and delighted with how this amp sounds.  seems a game changer to my ears.  

I agree these are vastly improved over previous Gen Digital SS Amps or whatever one calls them... I would be curious how they would sound if you ran a Tube Pre Amp Pedal in line between the Amp & the Guitar?

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