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Just want to thank all of you for your input and I will make an effort to round up a few more pictures and post them under a new, but similar topic/header. I'm not worried about getting info so I can put this up for sale, cause that will be the problem for my heirs, but it's great to hear back from so many helpful contributors, especially since I have never posted here before. I have another inherited guitar that happens to be a Guild of the same era and style, but I think that ID search will be much more straight forward. Anyway, your generosity is very much appreciated. 

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7 minutes ago, Sgt. Pepper said:

Isn’t the bridge the way Martin does it and Gibsons is 180’ed. 

That is likely true. And a good point. Where Gibson did the bridges "right side up" as Martin does would be what years? 

Even though this bridge is not either Gibson or Martin...the shape is a little different. 

But, while it would be very hard with pics, I bet a close examination of the top and bridge area might reveal a bit more with the info you suggest. 

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35 minutes ago, stein said:

That is likely true. And a good point. Where Gibson did the bridges "right side up" as Martin does would be what years? 

Even though this bridge is not either Gibson or Martin...the shape is a little different. 

But, while it would be very hard with pics, I bet a close examination of the top and bridge area might reveal a bit more with the info you suggest. 

The bridge doesn't tell us all that much as we must assume it was replaced at the same time as the top. Add to that the fact that a 1963 CW-bridge likely was the hollow plastic version, which many would want to switch anyway. 

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11 minutes ago, E-minor7 said:

The bridge doesn't tell us all that much as we must assume it was replaced at the same time as the top. Add to that the fact that a 1963 CW-bridge likely was the hollow plastic version, which many would want to switch anyway. 

All true, I wouldn't depend on it. 

Unless, there is evidence that there was once an "upside down" bridge, that would be close to proof positive the top is original? (Or evidence of another bridge that can be seen?)

Don't take this to the bank: I honestly don't recall what bridge is correct for the '63 or '67 someone said earlier. 

It's a lotta assumptions. 

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15 minutes ago, stein said:

Don't take this to the bank: I honestly don't recall what bridge is correct for the '63 or '67 someone said earlier. 

It's a lotta assumptions. 

Fair enough - but I do. I'm a professor of exactly these topics. 🧐

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9 hours ago, Al Pike said:

Japanese made, I believe these were off my ‘76 Guild D40. 

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Yes, the tuners were made by Gotoh in Japan.  The set on my '76 Guild G-37 still works great!   Edit - Btw Al, assuming you still have that set, thought you might like to know that there's a fellow on the internet who sells them for $150, or $200 with the bushings! 

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6 hours ago, stein said:

Don't take this to the bank: I honestly don't recall what bridge is correct for the '63 or '67 someone said earlier.  

If it's from '63, it would have originally had either a rosewood or plastic belly-up adjustable bridge.  If it's from '67, it would've originally come with a rosewood belly-up adjustable bridge.  Note that if it were made in '67, the neck would have been 1-9/16" at the nut, which is the quick & easy way to distinguish the wider-necked '63 from a '67.

Also, if the top were original (which it does not appear to be), a bridgeplate inspection would show obvious evidence of holes for the adjustable bridge hardware  - okay, unless a new bridgeplate was fashioned & covered up all the holes!

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2 hours ago, bobouz said:

If it's from '63, it would have originally had either a rosewood or plastic belly-up adjustable bridge.  If it's from '67, it would've originally come with a rosewood belly-up adjustable bridge.  Note that if it were made in '67, the neck would have been 1-9/16" at the nut, which is the quick & easy way to distinguish the wider-necked '63 from a '67.

Also, if the top were original (which it does not appear to be), a bridgeplate inspection would show obvious evidence of holes for the adjustable bridge hardware  - okay, unless a new bridgeplate was fashioned & covered up all the holes!

There were a lot of bridge variations in the mid/late 60's, not to mention earlier.  When Gibson re-topped my first 1950 J-45 in  July 1968, they installed a belly-down (Martin-style) rosewood bridge with rosewood adjustable saddle, which apparently was the standard for the J-45 in that year.

In the Banner years, there were rectangular bridges, belly-down bridges, and belly-up bridges on the same models. My '43 SJ re-issue, which is a reasonably accurate reproduction except for the bound fretboard, has a belly-down bridge.

If the OP's guitar is a mid-60's CW, it has almost certainly been re-topped at some point, so speculation about the bridge is pretty academic.

 

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7 hours ago, bobouz said:

Yes, the tuners were made by Gotoh in Japan.  The set on my '76 Guild G-37 still works great!   Edit - Btw Al, assuming you still have that set, thought you might like to know that there's a fellow on the internet who sells them for $150, or $200 with the bushings! 

Yes I see that. 

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14 hours ago, j45nick said:
16 hours ago, bobouz said:

If it's from '63, it would have originally had either a rosewood or plastic belly-up adjustable bridge.  If it's from '67, it would've originally come with a rosewood belly-up adjustable bridge.  Note that if it were made in '67, the neck would have been 1-9/16" at the nut, which is the quick & easy way to distinguish the wider-necked '63 from a '67.

Also, if the top were original (which it does not appear to be), a bridgeplate inspection would show obvious evidence of holes for the adjustable bridge hardware  - okay, unless a new bridgeplate was fashioned & covered up all the holes!

Thanks for the tip on the neck width. This neck is more like 1-11/16" at the nut, so I guess the '67 vintage is out of the question. 

 

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38 minutes ago, DonL said:

Thanks for the tip on the neck width. This neck is more like 1-11/16" at the nut, so I guess the '67 vintage is out of the question. 

99 % yes - read my post from 11:58 Sunday. These are not 67 back braces.

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11 minutes ago, E-minor7 said:

Yuz - and with the flat upper side/edge. I actually begin to be curious about the top-bracing on this bastard. 

Good question. If re-topped, that top bracing could be anything.

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