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Hello everyone!  I've got another question for y'all.  A friend recently dropped by with an old converted HG-00.  I don't know much about these except they're a converted Hawaiian L-00 like guitar.  

I have looked around the forums but wanted to get some current thinking on these guitars?

It's a black finish with firestripe pick guard (so sexy) and the wide neck is surprisingly comfortable.  Basically, the same profile as my '38 L-00 but the V is a tiny bit asymmetrical.  I once had a 0017A that the neck was just way too much for me and I expected this one to be similar but it's not. 

Anyway, what can y'all tell me about these?

 

 

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From what I understand these were originally set up Hawaiian style, with the strings raised off the neck like a square neck dobro…but many of the guitars ended up being converted to standard guitars.  The HG stands for Hawaiian Guitar if I’m not mistaken.  I’ve only heard great things about these guitars if they are in their original state or if they were converted.   I believe they fetch a high price value among vintage guitar collectors.  
 

BTW, I couldn’t pull up any of the photos on my iPhone.  
 

QM aka “Jazzman” Jeff

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The HG-00 is a great guitar.  They have more volume and a slower decay than the Advanced L body guitars.   But what did your fiend have converted?  Pretty much all you ever had to do with these guitars is lower the saddle and you were good to go. 

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23 minutes ago, QuestionMark said:

From what I understand these were originally set up Hawaiian style, with the strings raised off the neck like a square neck dobro…but many of the guitars ended up being converted to standard guitars.  The HG stands for Hawaiian Guitar if I’m not mistaken.  I’ve only heard great things about these guitars if they are in their original state or if they were converted.   I believe they fetch a high price value among vintage guitar collectors.  
 

BTW, I couldn’t pull up any of the photos on my iPhone.  
 

QM aka “Jazzman” Jeff

Thanks Jeff!  For some reason I can't see the pics on my iphone but I can see them responding from a laptop.

 

5 minutes ago, zombywoof said:

The HG-00 is a great guitar.  They have more volume and a slower decay than the Advanced L body guitars.   But what did your fiend have converted?  Pretty much all you ever had to do with these guitars is lower the saddle and you were good to go. 

I enjoyed playing it.  We traded guitars for the weekend so he's got my L-00.  This thing really has some kick to it but the 12 fret bridge position gives it a really rich almost creamy sweetness. 

I looked inside and the braces look just a little bit more stout than my L-00 and the top seems thicker.  Nothing inside looks altered so I guess the conversion was only the nut and the bridge was replaced too.  That seems fairly common on those old girls.  

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If Im not mistakin. These have Bar frets as well.  
Martin had a H model as well (bar frets)    The tangs are wider. So fretting one of  those requires filling the slots so the frets stay in place. 

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As far as I know, no Gibson guitars were made with bar frets. Martin did til middle ‘34  for non Hawaiian guitars. I think I remember that the Hawaiian models had bar frets into the early 40’s?  

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3 hours ago, CJB said:

I enjoyed playing it.  We traded guitars for the weekend so he's got my L-00.  This thing really has some kick to it but the 12 fret bridge position gives it a really rich almost creamy sweetness. 

I looked inside and the braces look just a little bit more stout than my L-00 and the top seems thicker.  Nothing inside looks altered so I guess the conversion was only the nut and the bridge was replaced too.  That seems fairly common on those old girls.  

I own a 1932 L1 .  It is one of the last 12 fretters. 

While the Gibson Avanced L body guitars such as your L-00 started to be built heavier after 1933 the HG-00 as a slack key guitar had  a heftier build to be able to handle the string tension.  All in all though, they were still very lightly built for a lap guitar.

I think though Gibson really hit it out of the ballpark with the Smeck and the HG-00.

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32 minutes ago, 62burst said:

Did you happen to come acoss CFH's "guitar hq" labor-of-love site? So much information there. 

Scroll down to the "L-00 Flattop" section. . .  you might get some more information there. Like:

That's great, thank you!  I had not looked there yet.

 

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3 hours ago, CJB said:

That's great, thank you!  I had not looked there yet.

 

While that site is convenient it is pretty much a reprint of what others have published.  So errors can be repeated.  Back in the day, as example, the site stated the J50 was introduced in 1947 which is what appeared in the 1st edition of the Fabulous Flattops book.   

For my money the best source on pre-War Gibsons is the UMGF.  

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