antoniovox Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Hi all, hope someone can help me. I changed the fingerboard binding on my J 200 1989 but, I forgot to measure the side dots diameter. someone can measure from your j 200 and let me know? thanks in advance Antonio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 two millimeters. Maybe a hair wider. Look to be dark brown on mine. Could be the BBQ sauce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antoniovox Posted June 29, 2021 Author Share Posted June 29, 2021 thanks for your reply. I was thinking it was 2 millimiter but I' m shure is more. I bought 2 millimiter dots but they seem to me a bit smaller than the old ones. don't you have a digital or also a normal caliper to measure them accurately? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 (edited) If you want accuracy with smaller measurements you have to go with a digital Vernier caliper The side position markers which LMI and others sell though seem to be in the order of a 3/32" (2.38 mm) diameter. Edited June 29, 2021 by zombywoof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearbasher Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Apples and oranges, but out of curiosity, I measured my J-45s side dots with a digital caliper and I get the 2.38 mm zomby mentions above. Disclaimer: My eyes ain't what they used to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antoniovox Posted June 29, 2021 Author Share Posted June 29, 2021 thanks so much guys! this help me a lot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 A comparison with the fret-ends may speak - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62burst Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Fixing a hole where the tone goes in? D 'Don't know if there's any fill around the dots, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) What is .38 mm between guitar players. Just mark it with a Sharpie. Edited June 30, 2021 by Sgt. Pepper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brucebubs Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 29 minutes ago, Sgt. Pepper said: What is .38 mm between guitar players. Just mark it with a Sharpie. Martin does that knowing the binding is just going to fall off anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Brucebubs said: Martin does that knowing the binding is just going to fall off anyway. I know. When I but a new Martin, I immediately take it for a neck reset and crazy glue the binding back down. Edited June 30, 2021 by Sgt. Pepper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brucebubs Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, Sgt. Pepper said: I know. When I but a new Martin, I immediately take it for a neck reset and crazy glue the binding back down. Makes sense, you know you're gonna need to do it anyway so why not save time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 5 hours ago, 62burst said: Fixing a hole where the tone goes in? D 'Don't know if there's any fill around the dots, though. But are we sure this is a 200 !? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Brucebubs said: Makes sense, you know you're gonna need to do it anyway so why not save time. Right, so I’ve owned 14 of them and all 14 have never needed a neck reset (one day they might) and the binding on all of them has never come loose. Edited June 30, 2021 by Sgt. Pepper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62burst Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 6 hours ago, Sgt. Pepper said: What is .38 mm between guitar players. Just mark it with a Sharpie. 'Did that before, and it works for a surprisingly long time. But it wasn't a J-200. 5 hours ago, E-minor7 said: But are we sure this is a 200 !? Fairly sure. But OP Antonio is talking '80's Gibson, so who knows. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antoniovox Posted June 30, 2021 Author Share Posted June 30, 2021 there where black plastic dots when I removed the binding. unfortunately I didn' t care and all finished in the trash. now I don't know if '80 's j 200 dots are different from other ages... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) Are you trying to purchase side dots to drill out a hole and install them? If so Stew Mac probably sell that stuff by the metric foot. Edited June 30, 2021 by Sgt. Pepper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antoniovox Posted June 30, 2021 Author Share Posted June 30, 2021 Stew Mac sells only 2 measurements: 1/16" diameter which is 1,58 mm 3/32" diameter which is 2,38 mm . so I would go for 2,38 mm. I need a picture to see if it is centered on the binding or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Measure With A Micrometer Mark with Chalk CUT WITH AN AXE ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antoniovox Posted July 4, 2021 Author Share Posted July 4, 2021 Hi guys, last question: are side dots perfectly centered, I mean vertically on the binding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62burst Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, antoniovox said: Hi guys, last question: are side dots perfectly centered, I mean vertically on the binding. Now that you mention it, no, the position marker dots don't seem to be exactly centered on the neck binding. Wondering why. . . if the fretboard was to be resurfaced at some point, maybe there was a concern about shaving off the top of the dots? Nahh. . . couldn't be. But while discussing fretwork for a guitar with a bound neck, and if the binding complicates things, there's something else you might also want to think about - nibs. . . the small bit of binding that extends up to meet the fret ends. Some have 'em, some don't. Have a look at the pics already posted to your thread: the SJ-200's made in the 2000's have them. 'Hard to find images of a J-200 from 1989 showing neck binding detail. Broken Strings Guitars (searched) and the prototype '89 on currently on eBay might barely provide a clue. Just make it look nice. Unless someone was trying to prove a forgery, you should be ok. Edited July 5, 2021 by 62burst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antoniovox Posted July 5, 2021 Author Share Posted July 5, 2021 you're right. I remember dots's gap was less on the down side, not perfectly centered, but..how much? my j 200 1989 has nibs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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