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1964 ES-335 Reissue vs. ES-335 Figured


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Hi all,

I am in the market for a 335. Right now I am looking at the ES-335 Figured and the 1964 ES-335 Reissue. I plan to buy the latest 2021 model.

I assume biggest difference in terms of sound will be caused by the pickups:

Custombucker Alnico III - 1964 ES-335 Reissue
Calibrated T-Type - ES-335 Figured 

My questions:

1. I assume the T-Type will be brighter vs. the Custombucker? Is that a big difference? What do you prefer?

2. I already have a Les Paul Modern with Burstbucker Pro. Which 335 will sound and feel most different vs. the Les Paul Modern?

I am trying to get a guitar that will be different vs. my Les Paul Modern. + I like to play blues / rock.

Thanks fo sharing your thoughts!

Best,

Andreas

P.S.: Planning for new gear is just exciting !! ;-)

 

 

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Either would be good, looking at the links...tough call. 

Reissue.....can't go wrong really...however calibrated T-types have been described as 'epic game-changers' -

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=Gibson's+new+Calibrated+T-Type+humbucking+pickups

I just got a 2013 Gibson with burstbuckers; I'm still evaluating them.  What I don't like is a muddy neck pickup.

need to try 'em -  I think the feel of the neck for me is more important than the pickup as that can usually be changed for the better.

Good luck!

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On 10/17/2021 at 7:41 AM, arftown said:

Thanks for sharing the search link! Many people describe the T-Type PU as bright. And thats not what I want. I want the guitar to sound more woody or mellow. I guess I ll bite the bullet and go for the 1964 ES-335 Reissue. 
 

Thanks!

best,

Andreas

Thats just what I would prefer in a 335. Sounds like jdgm may want to change at least one of his pickups. I favour neck PUs and mud is a no-no! 

I'm unfamiliar with the custombucker alnico 3s. I notice they are unpotted. 

I also followed jdgm's link. Two reports described the T-Types as underwound with low output. Personally that sounds attractive to me. Though bright, they should have more clarity. On the amp I would EQ out the brightness and keep the guitar tone full on. 

The only mention of 'Epic Game Changers' I found was on Dawsons https://www.dawsons.co.uk/blog/a-guide-to-gibson-pickups site which is a blanket title for the reviewed pickups. I didnt see a T-type in that collection. 

 

Phil MK review of a T-Type equipped 335

Good luck 

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1 hour ago, Larsongs said:

I think the reason Gibson comes out with a new Pickup every other day is they’re trying to figure out how they made those PAF’s in the ‘50’s… So far they haven’t done it…. Close, but, no Cigar…

I dont see that they ever can. There was so much variation in those 50's PAFs that they are now a moving target.

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6 hours ago, merciful-evans said:

I dont see that they ever can. There was so much variation in those 50's PAFs that they are now a moving target.

Yes, that’s true. But, I’ve yet to hear any 70’s or newer HB Pickup that sounds as good as my 1959 Gibson ES345 with PAF’s…

Re your Post. That’s exactly what they’re doing now… There as many Gibson HB’s as there are colors in the Rainbow! Inconsistencies back in the 50’s was because they were all hand wound among other things.... 

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Well I happened to get a 2021 Figured yesterday and oh my it is an exceptional guitar.

It has the T-Types and in 335 terms I'd say they are bright. I like them so far, they suit my style, but they are not the same as in my previous 2000 335 which was pretty good at the mellow, warm, woody vibe. 

 

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Great guitar! That's what I have on order (still waiting). 

I was debating a similar choice as the OP and decided to go for the 2021 figured. Tone controls on both the guitar and the amp will help if it's too bright, and it seems the T-Types will provide more clarity for cleaner sounds.

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On 11/1/2021 at 1:40 PM, Morety said:

Great guitar! That's what I have on order (still waiting). 

I was debating a similar choice as the OP and decided to go for the 2021 figured. Tone controls on both the guitar and the amp will help if it's too bright, and it seems the T-Types will provide more clarity for cleaner sounds.

I got the Opportunity to play loud through my amp yesterday. I have a Jazz Chorus and it wasn't difficult to dial in everything from smooth mellow to crystal cleans with whatever amount of dirt thrown into the mix when I fancied it. 

I'll be keeping these pups. They sounded really good. 

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