Hype Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Anyone excited for these models? I’m looking forward to the Dove. I’ve wanted one of these since 2005, but back then I did not have the funds. But I have a dilemma now, I can only fund 1 purchase right now. So it’s either gonna be 1) EP Dove or 2) Gretsch Falcon Players (Midnight Sapphire) which I too wanted a Falcon in like forever…. HELP!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimt Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 I was special ordering ebony Doves and J200s back in the 90s. As well as J45s. All with standard features Nothing wrong with buying a Elvis family endorsed Gibson. Its what make you happy. If it was me. If you like the size of the J200 , get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hype Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 12 hours ago, slimt said: I was special ordering ebony Doves and J200s back in the 90s. As well as J45s. All with standard features Nothing wrong with buying a Elvis family endorsed Gibson. Its what make you happy. If it was me. If you like the size of the J200 , get it. I have a 2009 J-200 Sunburst and a 2016 Hummingbird vintage…And always wanted an Ebony Dove particularly Elvis’ model….Tough choices out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Not a twinge of longing. But we are also lucky when it comes to Elvis guitars if that is your thing. We own a 1960 J200 so built the same year as the guitar Elvis played through most of the 1960s. I originally paid about 1/2 of what this new version is running. While that may sound like a deal, it was the most I had ever laid out on a guitar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hype Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 hour ago, zombywoof said: Not a twinge of longing. But we are also lucky when it comes to Elvis guitars if that is your thing. We own a 1960 J200 so built the same year as the guitar Elvis played through most of the 1960s. I originally paid about 1/2 of what this new version is running. While that may sound like a deal, it was the most I had ever laid out on a guitar. Nice. So you got it back in 1960 the J-200? Or back then I guess they went by SJ-200? Is it natural? Also, you must’ve paid approx $200 back then….Which is still a lot of money.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Hype said: Nice. So you got it back in 1960 the J-200? Or back then I guess they went by SJ-200? Is it natural? Also, you must’ve paid approx $200 back then….Which is still a lot of money.. No, they were J200s. In 1960 a brand new J200 cost $395 plus another just under $55 for a top of line case. A natural top version would run you $15 more. Sorry to disappoint you but I did not get got my first guitar though until around 1962. Not having doting parents, it was an old archtop a friend of my grandfather had sitting in a closet and knowing I wanted a guitar gave to me. It would be many years though until I could afford even a new J45. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hype Posted September 23, 2022 Author Share Posted September 23, 2022 Anyone know why the EP Doves are hard to get? This one is harder to get in Canada. Got the NG-355 no probs. But this one is impossible. Come on Gibson and ship these to Canada already for crying out loud! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 My EP J200 has been on back order for a long while. I don’t think it’s a Canadian issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 We had a couple of threads here earlier this year on the difficulty of getting new Gibsons, especially highly desirable models, the higher prices and the increases in prices on used ones. I think the general conclusion was that it was due to: The Supply Chain, Inflation, Work Force Issues, and the Japanese and Canadians buying up everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 On 3/21/2022 at 2:08 PM, zombywoof said: It would be many years though until I could afford even a new J45. I was in my 40's when I got my first new J-45... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 1 hour ago, fortyearspickn said: We had a couple of threads here earlier this year on the difficulty of getting new Gibsons, especially highly desirable models, the higher prices and the increases in prices on used ones. I think the general conclusion was that it was due to: The Supply Chain, Inflation, Work Force Issues, and the Japanese and Canadians buying up everything. And don’t you dare leave out our new favorite scapegoat, and the one we will use for the next 20+ years - Covid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 4 hours ago, Murph said: I was in my 40's when I got my first new J-45... I never did get one. The first time I could afford a new Gibson would have been in the early-1970s when I had a real (albeit temporary) job. And the Gibsons they were churning out at the time were, to put it kindly, not exactly the best of the breed. So, my first Gibson ended up being a guitar built between 1955 and 1959. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olie Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 5 hours ago, Murph said: I was in my 40's when I got my first new J-45... Here's another "how old were you..." I finally got the guitar I wished for - a J-45, when I was about 70; and it was a demo! And I'm glad I did. It's a joy to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 I was 60 - 'wished for' - got an almost brand new SJ200. Traded in for a Martin by a church musician - who swore it was only driven on Sundays. Prior to that I had only 1 guitar - an LG1 - for 40+ years. First brand new J45, when I retired at 65. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, fortyearspickn said: I was 60 - 'wished for' - got an almost brand new SJ200. Traded in for a Martin by a church musician - who swore it was only driven on Sundays. Prior to that I had only 1 guitar - an LG1 - for 40+ years. First brand new J45, when I retired at 65. I would only get a EP Dove or EP J-200 If it was signed by Elvis. I got a new J-15 when I was about 49. Am I in the club? I no longer have it though. Edited September 24, 2022 by Sgt. Pepper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hype Posted September 24, 2022 Author Share Posted September 24, 2022 13 hours ago, Dave F said: My EP J200 has been on back order for a long while. I don’t think it’s a Canadian issue. Yeah L&M have a few EP Doves on back order…It’s been several months now. Trying to get all my NGD’s out of the way before next year for Gibson. Then onto my Gretsch Players Falcon for 2023. It’s good to be rich, but even we have to wait for the “supply” chain issues to resolve themselves apparently.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hype Posted September 24, 2022 Author Share Posted September 24, 2022 4 hours ago, fortyearspickn said: I was 60 - 'wished for' - got an almost brand new SJ200. Traded in for a Martin by a church musician - who swore it was only driven on Sundays. Prior to that I had only 1 guitar - an LG1 - for 40+ years. First brand new J45, when I retired at 65. You almost got an SJ200, but? What happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hype Posted September 24, 2022 Author Share Posted September 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Sgt. Pepper said: I would only get a EP Dove or EP J-200 If it was signed by Elvis. I got a new J-15 when I was about 49. Am I in the club? I no longer have it though. What happened? You sold it? The EP Dove and J-200s are nice…Stupid supply chain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hype Posted September 24, 2022 Author Share Posted September 24, 2022 7 hours ago, zombywoof said: I never did get one. The first time I could afford a new Gibson would have been in the early-1970s when I had a real (albeit temporary) job. And the Gibsons they were churning out at the time were, to put it kindly, not exactly the best of the breed. So, my first Gibson ended up being a guitar built between 1955 and 1959. The Norlin era Gibsons are not looked upon kindly, though funny how nostalgia changes everything. Now 1974 LP Customs are highly regarded. Though the 70’s Gibson acoustics aren’t raved about much.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hype said: What happened? You sold it? The EP Dove and J-200s are nice…Stupid supply chain. Sold it cause it sounded like it was made with wet cardboard. Edited September 24, 2022 by Sgt. Pepper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Hype said: The Norlin era Gibsons are not looked upon kindly, though funny how nostalgia changes everything. Now 1974 LP Customs are highly regarded. Though the 70’s Gibson acoustics aren’t raved about much.. For me, had I not gone back into the Gibson catalog I probably would have had to wait until Bozeman went into operation before I understood and full appreciated the strong fundamentals of the Gibson sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 11 hours ago, Hype said: You almost got an SJ200, but? What happened? got an almost brand new SJ200 I got an SJ200 that was - almost brand new. Still have it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 10 hours ago, Sgt. Pepper said: Sold it cause it sounded like it was made with wet cardboard. Must have been strung with Lights. 10's ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 21 minutes ago, fortyearspickn said: Must have been strung with Lights. 10's ? No I had 11’s. It was more like a wet f-art. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Shoulda gone with 12's - you coulda gotten a shart out of it ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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