E-minor7 Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 He is simply amazing. I really admire his control. Though probably excited now and again he keeps calm and balance his way over the line. BRAVO , , , never mind the magnets. . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Whoa ! Ten times more complex than I would have thought. Guy is a surgeon, and an artist ! Has more tools than my wife has shoes! THANKS Em7 ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissouriPicker Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 That guy has some very serious skills. Very, very impressive. No way in the world I could do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluesKing777 Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 What's wrong with gaffa tape?....😝 Maybe a coat of jet black to hide the repair and put it on reverb.com before it falls out. you know ..mint Gibson ebony Hummingbird F/S. No, kidding though, but a friend had his 15 series Martin hit his mic with similar look and a patch was put in....very good job done....almost invisible but looks like a scar. BluesKing777. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 13 hours ago, BluesKing777 said: What's wrong with gaffa tape?....😝 looks like a scar. Honest scars are okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanvillRob Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 I'd be happy with this repair....but wonder how it got so damaged....hit a table? Was Pete Townsend playing it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhanners623 Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Makes me never want to take a guitar out of the house again…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 A stunningly bad result. This fellow should seek consultation with a few of the great vintage guitar repair folks who take great pains to match the grain of patches with the grain of the repaired guitar and who can also so skillfully match the guitar finish as to nearly make the patch disappear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted April 6, 2022 Author Share Posted April 6, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, jt said: A stunningly bad result. This fellow should seek consultation with a few of the great vintage guitar repair folks who take great pains to match the grain of patches with the grain of the repaired guitar and who can also so skillfully match the guitar finish as to nearly make the patch disappear. Okay there - I think you are quite hard. As seen when filming the top his lighting/camera betrays the nuances of the burst, , , and his own work. Besides there are, was it 9 layers left. Edited April 6, 2022 by E-minor7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 55 minutes ago, jt said: A stunningly bad result. This fellow should seek consultation with a few of the great vintage guitar repair folks who take great pains to match the grain of patches with the grain of the repaired guitar and who can also so skillfully match the guitar finish as to nearly make the patch disappear. I've seen some videos of what your talking about, Painstakingly matching the grains with an almost undetectable repair. If I had an expensive or vintage instrument, I would not be satisfied with the repair shown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RvrDxn Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 3 hours ago, jt said: A stunningly bad result. This fellow should seek consultation with a few of the great vintage guitar repair folks who take great pains to match the grain of patches with the grain of the repaired guitar and who can also so skillfully match the guitar finish as to nearly make the patch disappear. And a stunningly arrogant take. You may be comparing apples to oranges here as to what type of repair he is offering/someone is willing to pay for and a vintage restoration expert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 7 hours ago, RvrDxn said: And a stunningly arrogant take. You may be comparing apples to oranges here as to what type of repair he is offering/someone is willing to pay for and a vintage restoration expert. Perhaps so. And I apologize for any arrogance I exhibited. But, well, the repair just isn't well executed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 With the value of vintage guitars skyrocketing, it's getting easier to justify the type of costly repairs that JT is talking about. Maintaining playability versus maintaining vintage value may result in very different approaches to the same repair, and may require significantly different skillsets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted April 6, 2022 Author Share Posted April 6, 2022 2 hours ago, j45nick said: With the value of vintage guitars skyrocketing, it's getting easier to justify the type of costly repairs that JT is talking about. Maintaining playability versus maintaining vintage value may result in very different approaches to the same repair, and may require significantly different skillsets. Perhaps - but for many years to come, this is 'just' a plain black-ring Hummingbird Standard. 3 hours ago, jt said: Perhaps so. And I apologize for any arrogance I exhibited. But, well, the repair just isn't well executed. No need to apologize, if you ask me. Prefer if you could find a video where the same operation is demonstrated on A level. Would be an eye-opener for me and the audience here. Perhaps even the doc in the film above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 36 minutes ago, E-minor7 said: Perhaps - but for many years to come, this is 'just' a plain black-ring Hummingbird Standard. No need to apologize, if you ask me. Prefer if you could find a video where the same operation is demonstrated on A level. Would be an eye-opener for me and the audience here. Perhaps even the doc in the film above. If I had that repair done to an otherwise pristine HB I would not like it. The luthier I use has repaired holes and breaks in vintage guitars for me that were undetectable after being fixed. I’ve never seen a video of such repairs but have seen documented articles with pictures. I don’t remember where and I have no urge to research them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted April 6, 2022 Author Share Posted April 6, 2022 14 minutes ago, Dave F said: If I had that repair done to an otherwise pristine HB I would not like it. The luthier I use has repaired holes and breaks in vintage guitars for me that were undetectable after being fixed. I’ve never seen a video of such repairs but have seen documented articles with pictures. I don’t remember where and I have no urge to research them. Admit the scared zone above the oval is odd. Assume he wanted to limit the size of the patch - then counted on camouflaging the scar between the oval and the original side. Not optimal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Some here never clean off their guitar except when they do a string change. Some like 'road worn' looking guitars. While others want to keep theirs in mint condition. For every Closet Queen 60 year old guitar discovery - there are probably a half a million guitars that have much worse wear and damage than the one this guy fixed up. Restoring a Velvet Elvis painting isn't comparable to restoring a DaVinci. If I'd put a hole like that in my H'Bird TV - I'd be sick. But I'd get over it and be completely happy with that repair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanvillRob Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 17 minutes ago, fortyearspickn said: Some here never clean off their guitar except when they do a string change. Some like 'road worn' looking guitars. While others want to keep theirs in mint condition. For every Closet Queen 60 year old guitar discovery - there are probably a half a million guitars that have much worse wear and damage than the one this guy fixed up. Restoring a Velvet Elvis painting isn't comparable to restoring a DaVinci. If I'd put a hole like that in my H'Bird TV - I'd be sick. But I'd get over it and be completely happy with that repair. My sentiments EXACTLY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted April 6, 2022 Author Share Posted April 6, 2022 32 minutes ago, fortyearspickn said: If I'd put a hole like that in my H'Bird TV - I'd be sick. But I'd get over it and be completely happy with that repair. 8 minutes ago, DanvillRob said: My sentiments EXACTLY! Yes, same here, I dig the oval shape - though the upper zone scar would produce some questions. The doctor should present the final result with all 9 layers done in a good neutral lighting. And show us a photo from within too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Remind me to not buy used guitars from you guys. Just my experience, using a more competent luthier does not necessarily cost more. It does take longer. I had a couple bad experiences before I realized that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 that was a tuff repair. It looks like a solid job all around.. but, I will say, I have a friend with a VERY similar damage to a Taylor Maple (Quilted no less) 800 series 12 string. (Gorgeous guitar) The guy who did the repair on that guitar was amazing. I saw the job after it was done, and you could not see any history of the damage. He erased it completely. He was expensive, but it was a miraculous repair job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted April 6, 2022 Author Share Posted April 6, 2022 6 minutes ago, kidblast said: that was a tuff repair. It looks like a solid job all around.. but, I will say, I have a friend with a VERY similar damage to a Taylor Maple (Quilted no less) 800 series 12 string. (Gorgeous guitar) The guy who did the repair on that guitar was amazing. I saw the job after it was done, and you could not see any history of the damage. He erased it completely. He was expensive, but it was a miraculous repair job Very reassuring to hear stories like that - a downright salto : bet he was one happy geezer, , , , after being down in the hole. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanvillRob Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 25 minutes ago, Dave F said: Remind me to not buy used guitars from you guys. Just my experience, using a more competent luthier does not necessarily cost more. It does take longer. I had a couple bad experiences before I realized that. I can't speak for the others...but I don't sell my guitars....EVER! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 11 minutes ago, E-minor7 said: Very reassuring to hear stories like that - a downright salto : bet he was one happy geezer, , , , after being down in the hole. . HA! I see what ya did there. My pal was devastated, he loves that guitar. he was encouraged by the repair guy telling him "ha! I've seen worse"... 4 weeks later,... it looked like it just came out of the shipping container from Taylor. Remarkable really. He was an Authorized Taylor warranty and even had a Taylor spec'd "UV finishing booth" on site, He was ready to handle just about anything. I'd say he did just that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 10 minutes ago, DanvillRob said: I can't speak for the others...but I don't sell my guitars....EVER! That would be more of a reason to be picky about a repair for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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