Which Gibson acoustic guitars over the years meet all these 3 criteria?

[Small Jumbo]

Have there been any Gibson acoustics, from 1950 until now, that meet all three of these criteria?

1. 25.4" scale length (or very close to this)
2. 1 3/4" or 1 13/16" nut width (or very close to this)
3. 2 1/4" or 2 5/16" or 2 3/8" bridge string spacing (or very close to this)

If so, which ones are they? 

Thanks!

Edited April 10, 2022 by Small Jumbo

[Twang Gang]

I have a couple Hummingbirds that are "very close to this" as you say.  Scale is 25.5, nut is 1 11/16th and string spacing is 2 3/8 at the bridge.

[Small Jumbo]

4 hours ago, Twang Gang said:

I have a couple Hummingbirds that are "very close to this" as you say.  Scale is 25.5, nut is 1 11/16th and string spacing is 2 3/8 at the bridge.

Thank you, which models are these?

[Sgt. Pepper]

5 hours ago, Twang Gang said:

I have a couple Hummingbirds that are "very close to this" as you say.  Scale is 25.5, nut is 1 11/16th and string spacing is 2 3/8 at the bridge.

I thought HB’s were 24.75 scale.

[Dave F]

21 minutes ago, Sgt. Pepper said:

I thought HB’s were 24.75 scale.

The two I had were. I thought the birds were short and the doves were long.

I don't know any of the models well enough to answer that. The Doves were always long scale but known for their narrow neck. The Advanced Jumbo has been long scale but I think the nut width probably varied between 1.722-1.770 from what I've read. I've had two but did not pay that much attention to those details. I've had  four J200's  that are long scale but I'm not sure about the nut. I definitely didn't notice the bridge spacing. I think you would need to zero in to a specific era to nail down the specs.

Edited April 10, 2022 by Dave F

[E-minor7]

50 minutes ago, Dave F said:

The two I had were. I thought the birds were short and the doves were long.

I don't know any of the models well enough to answer that. The Doves were always long scale but known for their narrow neck. 

The new post millennium Birds/CWs/SJs are all short like they are meant to be.

The topic has been discussed a here before and quite a number of the first wave (1960-67) oldies were long - supposedly because they 'stole' Dove necks.

All my 60s square hogs however hold the standard measure - except the 68er. 

[zombywoof]

Nut width and scale are not hard to find out,  Bozeman lists them for models in current production and in their Legacy pages for models out of production while every seller on the face of the planet provides them for guitars bult in any given year.  With scales for guitars built from 1950 on you have two to choose from.  Nut width will be anywhere from 1.625" to 1.805" depending on year and model.   

String spacing at the bridge is not so easy a spec to find out.  As a rule of thumb though I would expect it to be 2 3/16" on guitars built in the time period you are asking about.  If you want anything more generous you pretty much have to go to guitars built before 1941.

Edited April 10, 2022 by zombywoof

[Small Jumbo]

20 minutes ago, zombywoof said:

Nut width and scale are not hard to find out,  Bozeman lists them for models in current production and in their Legacy pages for models out of production while every seller on the face of the planet provides them for guitars bult in any given year.  With scales for guitars built from 1950 on you have two to choose from.  Nut width will be anywhere from 1.625" to 1.805" depending on year and model.   

String spacing at the bridge is not so easy a spec to find out.  As a rule of thumb though I would expect it to be 2 3/16" on guitars built in the time period you are asking about.  If you want anything more generous you pretty much have to go to guitars built before 1941.

Thank you, this is a very helpful post! Interesting that Gibson has not experimented with bridge string spacing of 2 1/4" or wider for 80 years!

[Dave F]

27 minutes ago, Small Jumbo said:

Thank you, this is a very helpful post! Interesting that Gibson has not experimented with bridge string spacing of 2 1/4" or wider for 80 years!

I measured a few of mine with most being 2-1/4" to  2-3/16" but a '32 L00 reissue I have is 2-3/8" but other L00's I have are 2-1/4" to 2-3/16"

[zombywoof]

11 hours ago, Small Jumbo said:

Thank you, this is a very helpful post! Interesting that Gibson has not experimented with bridge string spacing of 2 1/4" or wider for 80 years!

As a starting point I am more familiar with Gibson made in the 1930s to 1960 than I am with Bozeman made guitars.  Part of the differences in specs in particularly guitars built in the 1930s and 1940s was likely the result of different hands doing the work rather than what the specs stated.  It was not unusual for nut widths and such to vary.  So, as example, I own a 1932 L1 which has a string spacing of 2 3/8" at the bridge.  My 1942, on the other hand as a rather skimpy spacing of 2 1/8".  I used to own a 1956 Southerner Jumbo which had a 2 3/16" spread. The one Bozeman-made guitar I owned dated to 2001 and it also had a 2 3/16" string spacing although it also had the 1 3/4" nut rather than the standard 1.725"

Edited April 11, 2022 by zombywoof

[Twang Gang]

Sorry, I screwed up.  My Hummingbirds do have 24.75 inch scale lenght - so disregard everything I said.

[E-minor7]

On 4/13/2022 at 5:07 PM, Twang Gang said:

Sorry, I screwed up.  My Hummingbirds do have 24.75 inch scale lenght - so disregard everything I said.

When were your Birds born, TG ?

[Twang Gang]

13 hours ago, E-minor7 said:

When were your Birds born, TG ?

They are new ones, Original born in 2020, and Quilted Maple from 2021.