NeoConMan Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Curious to see if Homz and Hoyt come back to the forum.... Woman dies trying to stop sword fight Apr. 9, 2009 Associated Press INDIANAPOLIS - Police have charged an Indianapolis man in the death of his 77-year-old grandmother, who died after trying to break up a sword fight between him and her 69-year-old brother-in-law. Police say 39-year-old Chris Rondeau faces a preliminary murder charge in the death of Franziska Stegbauer. Officers found Rondeau, his grandmother and her brother-in-law, Adolf Stegbauer, with stab wounds when they arrived at the northwest Indianapolis home shortly after 1 a.m. Thursday. Rondeau was hospitalized in stable condition, while Adolf Stegbauer was in surgery with serious injuries. Sgt. Matthew Mount says an autopsy will determine whether Stegbauer died from her stab wounds or a heart attack. No wonder Homz is so damned preoccupied with Nazi's, look at those names - AND THEY'RE HIS NEIGHBORS!!!! THIS is why I don't read fiction, reality is way too much fun. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myspace.com/jessenoah Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 lets stay classy now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted April 10, 2009 Author Share Posted April 10, 2009 I dunno Jesse. This really bothers me. Have you heard Hoyt carrying on about the idiots with "***ualt rifles" and such? He doesn't want ANYBODY to have any "weapons" while he deftly wields a machete against all comers. He sure seems serious about it, says NOBODY will get past him in HIS home with his machete.... Would a machete be considered a weapon? I think so.... I dunno where Hoyt lives, but Homz is in the Indy area and the two of them are like Siamese Twins joined at the brain. I dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myspace.com/jessenoah Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I have a collection of baseball bats in my bed room, In all my years of playing baseball, i never hit a homerun, but i got the quickest wrists you will ever see............ In my closet, I have several peices of iron that i welded, I took metal shop in highschool, i am quite the welder........ I have a tool box, I have a bunch of wrentches, screwdrivers, all sorts of nasty buggers....... the point? ANYTHING CAN BE DANGEROUS IN THE WRONG HANDS If there is one thing i have learned, a machine gun is a bad thing made only for killing-the same way a baseball bat is made only as a weapon for gangsters to beat heads in anything in the wrong hands is a weapon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted April 10, 2009 Author Share Posted April 10, 2009 SEE WHAT I MEAN?!!! Hoyt's a machete maniac! That's why I'm so worried! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstMeasure Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I'll defend my home from a burgler that I can see with a t-ball bat, unless I see he has a Gun, then I'll drop him. But my Girlfriend doesn't need to be swinging a Bat, so she's got her 9mm. And, Hoyt, Machetes are better than Pitch forks if you're part of an uprising in a third world country, but if you're gonna use a blade, think Samuri, or U.S. Marines. Or this really *****en Air Force one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FennRx Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I have a collection of baseball bats in my bed room' date=' In all my years of playing baseball, i never hit a homerun, but i got the quickest wrists you will ever see............ In my closet, I have several peices of iron that i welded, I took metal shop in highschool, i am quite the welder........ I have a tool box, I have a bunch of wrentches, screwdrivers, all sorts of nasty buggers....... the point? ANYTHING CAN BE DANGEROUS IN THE WRONG HANDS If there is one thing i have learned, a machine gun is a bad thing made only for killing-the same way a baseball bat is made only as a weapon for gangsters to beat heads in anything in the wrong hands is a weapon[/quote'] i've never played baseball, but i bet my wrists are pretty quick.......lol the last part is definitely true. neo, thats more of my area than homz. but then again, i fled to the burbs outside of indy/marion county. and speaking of guns, the wife cleared me for another one since i bought her a macbook pro. any ideas? i'm thinking a less expensive 1911 or maybe another revolver. i have the .38s 642, perhaps a .357? or maybe i should by a compensator and get a Raging Bull. lol the local shop had an ak, buts its a WASR- which i have read is the bottom of the barrell. decisions decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoyt Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 SEE WHAT I MEAN?!!! Hoyt's a machete maniac! That's why I'm so worried! You miss the point(s). You don't need an assault weapon to defend yourself against the threats most people are likely to encounter. In fact, you don't even need a machete. I know some scared souls need the bravado and sexual relief a 30 shot clip in a Rambo looking rifle brings; but it is not good for our or anyone's society. I would not support taking away your right to own a machete, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wicked1 Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 And' date=' Hoyt, Machetes are better than Pitch forks if you're part of an uprising in a third world country, but if you're gonna use a blade, think Samuri, or U.S. Marines. [/quote'] I think one of the offending swords was actually a samurai sword!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FennRx Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 i dont understand what hoyt's problem with hi-cap mag rifles. is it really just that it looks scary? if it had a 10 round mag, would that make a difference? why? is it the caliber? plenty of guns use rounds similar to or the same as so-called assault rifles, so that cant be it. how is it detrimental to society? show me. viloent crime contined to decline after the AWB expired. so the use of these guns in crimes cant be it. and dont go quoting hillary about mexico, because no one in the government, including the ATF, has shown any proof whatsoever about their claims. and so what if i or anyone else likes the way a gun looks? people pay thousands for special finishes, aging and flametops on LPs and no one bats an eye. people spend 2-4k on a 1911 .45 ACP when a Taurus can be had for $500. no one says anything. i spend $400 on an eastern block rifle (that is better built and more reliable than most other rifles) and suddenly i'm a psychotic maniac with some sort of sexual deviation. ok i admit it, i do have a fetish. i love getting head a bit too much. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted April 10, 2009 Author Share Posted April 10, 2009 Yeah Fenn, The WASR is functional, but I would move a little higher up. Problem is, prices are getting silly on the AK and they are NOT worth big money. They were fine when they only cost $200. Buy a much better made American rifle if you're looking at $500. I own plenty of hi-cap mags just to drive people like Hoyt crazy (it's relative, I know) but I rarely use them in rifles. Too cumbersome. Hoyt is STILL ranting about his machete. FBI profilers have an opinion on those who use big blades against people, much more disturbing than the gun guys. Maybe he'll finally get the attention he deserves... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted April 10, 2009 Author Share Posted April 10, 2009 You miss the point(s). No' date=' I didn't. You don't need an assault weapon to defend yourself against the threats most people are likely to encounter. In fact' date=' you don't even need a machete. [/quote']Your opinion, based on what.You expect ANYBODY to believe you? Tell a cop next chance you get that you will defend your home with a machete. Watch his facial expression.... I know some scared souls need the bravado and sexual relief a 30 shot clip in a Rambo looking rifle brings; but it is not good for our or anyone's society.I've never emptied a 30 round clip in any gun I own.Too hard on the gun - for no reason. Do you ever break the speed limit in your car' date=' Hoyt? Um, do they allow you to drive there at the hospital? I would not support taking away your right to own a machete' date=' though. [/quote']Point made.Bullseye. You're an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homz Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Eugene get your axe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
?_? Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I still believe biceps provide more satisfaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoConMan Posted April 10, 2009 Author Share Posted April 10, 2009 Ah yes.... :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoyt Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 i dont understand what hoyt's problem with hi-cap mag rifles. is it really just that it looks scary? if it had a 10 round mag' date=' would that make a difference? why? is it the caliber? plenty of guns use rounds similar to or the same as so-called assault rifles, so that cant be it. how is it detrimental to society? show me. viloent crime contined to decline after the AWB expired. so the use of these guns in crimes cant be it. and dont go quoting hillary about mexico, because no one in the government, including the ATF, has shown any proof whatsoever about their claims. and so what if i or anyone else likes the way a gun looks? people pay thousands for special finishes, aging and flametops on LPs and no one bats an eye. people spend 2-4k on a 1911 .45 ACP when a Taurus can be had for $500. no one says anything. i spend $400 on an eastern block rifle (that is better built and more reliable than most other rifles) and suddenly i'm a psychotic maniac with some sort of sexual deviation. ok i admit it, i do have a fetish. i love getting head a bit too much. ;)[/quote'] Actually Fenn, I find people who have the need to own "high cap mag" rifles are irrational. They think they need them to protect themselves against criminals, the government, their neighbors in the event of a "survival situation," etc. That is irrational, in my opinion -- because the threats are not that great. Most of the folks I know who covet such weapons, are right wingers, many are bigoted, many are greedy, many are arrogant, and many (quite frankly) are perverted and scared of their own shadow and the boogey man. I'm not saying that you are any of those things, but it is clear some who post here supporting such weapons possess most, if not all those characterists. Some are dangerously close to being domestic terrorists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FennRx Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 hoyt, thank you for answering. this is the best answer you have given (me). i tend to agree that the "need" to own might be a bit irrational. i certainly dont need a 30 round mag, but it is nice at the range when i pay by the 1/2 hour since there is less time spent reloading. i do find the mag ban on handguns to be stupid though. a 10 rnd mag is ok, but put 11 in it and suddenly you're more dangerous. i certainly dont need more than 1 or 2 handguns, but i do enjoy shooting all of them. for better or worse, the 2A provides us with the right to arms, and therefore i am naturally opposed to the govt trying to tell the people how it is. the same goes with free speech for example. my con friends hate the fact that i support the aclu. they fight for the rights of everyone including the insanely stupid (kkk, skinheads, etc) as for the people you know, i have met many of them myself. i go to the gun range with my rifle and people comment on how nice it is and how i'll need it when the trouble starts. i dont see any sort of insurrection coming, but maybe i'm blind. for me personally, what prompted my curiosity is that there is a stigma about certain rifles. the govt (at one point) said they were bad, so much like smoking when i was a kid, i had to check them out. if no one said anything, i probably wouldnt care (as much). i certainly dont caress and call my guns "my babies," but i enjoy having and using them recreationally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homz Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Hoyt, have you ever considered it might just be fun. I love to shoot, although I must admit it's been some time since I have done so. I too think the end of times buyers of guns are irrational. Facts being that if it has come to that then you might survive with your rifle for a short time, but in this event the entire structure of society has collapsed you will only make your end come a bit slower. Just my opinion. That said. I still like to shoot guns and we as Americans are given that right by our Constitution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoyt Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Hoyt' date=' have you ever considered it might just be fun. I love to shoot, although I must admit it's been some time since I have done so. I too think the end of times buyers of guns are irrational. Facts being that if it has come to that then you might survive with your rifle for a short time, but in this event the entire structure of society has collapsed you will only make your end come a bit slower. Just my opinion. That said. I still like to shoot guns and we as Americans are given that right by our Constitution. [/quote'] I've said it many times, I don't have problems with those who like to shoot at target ranges, in the back yard (with proper backup), etc. Nor do I have a problem with someone who keeps a reasonable weapon in their home for protection. To avoid the inevitable question -- reasonable to me is a six shooter since it is plenty of protect for 98% or more of the situations one is likely to encounter. Darn near 50 years ago, many a weekend was spent with my dad at tournaments across the South East, including many on major military bases. My dad was quite good and had some really nice target pistols that were kept locked up except when at the range. He taught me how to breakdown a 1911 with my eyes shut. He also taught me that carrying guns in public is wrong, and that insecure gun owners are quite dangerous behind a weapon. Nothing I have experienced in the 35 years since he died, changes that opinion. I own a couple of guns now, including a S&W Model 25 revolver my dad used in tournaments. But, I have no desire to own what essentially is a military weapon designed to spray a hail of bullets at some object its owners fear, or hate (I did have a WWII bolt action Springfield for awhile). In our society, if someone dresses like Rambo, I'd say they have a problem. Similarly, if the covet such guns -- and particularly if they boast about it -- I'd also say they have a bigger problem. Consequently, we as a society have a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callen3615 Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Hoyt' date=' have you ever considered it might just be fun. I love to shoot, although I must admit it's been some time since I have done so. I too think the end of times buyers of guns are irrational. Facts being that if it has come to that then you might survive with your rifle for a short time, but in this event the entire structure of society has collapsed you will only make your end come a bit slower. Just my opinion. That said. I still like to shoot guns and we as Americans are given that right by our Constitution. [/quote'] I love to shoot. 12 gauges or 22s. its always fun. Owning lots of automatic high cap mag rifles is irrational but so is owning 10 les paul reissues... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FennRx Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I love to shoot. 12 gauges or 22s. its always fun. Owning lots of automatic high cap mag rifles is irrational but so is owning 10 les paul reissues... none of the weapons at hand are automatic. automatic weapons have been illegal in the US since the 1930s. as for the LPs, god i can only hope to someday be so irrationally wealthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstMeasure Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I think one of the offending swords was actually a samurai sword!! Yeah, and it worked all to well. It's just that Machetes have aren't designed to cut flesh and bone, and often Chip or Break when used improperly on jungle vegitation, let alone muscle and sinue, that cinstrict when cut by the blade. And you can't Stab with one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstMeasure Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I've said it many times' date=' I don't have problems with those who like to shoot at target ranges, in the back yard (with proper backup), etc. Nor do I have a problem with someone who keeps a reasonable weapon in their home for protection. To avoid the inevitable question -- reasonable to me is a six shooter since it is plenty of protect for 98% or more of the situations one is likely to encounter. Darn near 50 years ago, many a weekend was spent with my dad at tournaments across the South East, including many on major military bases. My dad was quite good and had some really nice target pistols that were kept locked up except when at the range. He taught me how to breakdown a 1911 with my eyes shut. He also taught me that carrying guns in public is wrong, and that insecure gun owners are quite dangerous behind a weapon. Nothing I have experienced in the 35 years since he died, changes that opinion. I own a couple of guns now, including a S&W Model 25 revolver my dad used in tournaments. But, I have no desire to own what essentially is a military weapon designed to spray a hail of bullets at some object its owners fear, or hate (I did have a WWII bolt action Springfield for awhile). In our society, if someone dresses like Rambo, I'd say they have a problem. Similarly, if the covet such guns -- and particularly if they boast about it -- I'd also say they have a bigger problem. Consequently, we as a society have a problem.[/quote'] A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed See that wording, it implies that we are supposed to own Military weapon with the intension of using them against those that would Alienate us from our Freedoms. It doesn't say, You can Keep and Bear arms as long as you don't scare anyone with surplus BDU's and Bannana clip. It's saying, "You, as an American, must be ready to be a line of defence, be it first or last, in the service of your country". Target shooting is a really cool by product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mick Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Eugene get your axe. I'm going to cut you into little pieces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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