fast fret Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 I fancy the Seth Lovers because they're a pretty good P.A.F pup. the problem is that they're not wax potted and it specifically says on the website that high gain and 50 watt (or above) tube amps are a no go. I have a 50 watt tube amp and venture into Slash levels of gain so it seems like a no go. Can you get them wax potted in the factory, as a sort of custom? and if this is possible, will it ruin the tone of it? Also if this seems a bad idea to you, which other SD P.A.F pup should i get, the 59's or Pearly Gates? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callen3615 Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 I have a distorion and a jb from sd. I love the distortion, but it has no clean tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveinspain Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 I had the SD Custom Shop make me some Jimmy Page 4 lead (wires) for my Les Paul project guitar... I told them what i wanted and they built them... Seymoure himself even signed them.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fast fret Posted April 11, 2009 Author Share Posted April 11, 2009 thanks, is there anyone to email? and any more help would be amazing... please:-" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichCI Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 I fancy the Seth Lovers because they're a pretty good P.A.F pup. the problem is that they're not wax potted and it specifically says on the website that high gain and 50 watt (or above) tube amps are a no go. I have a 50 watt tube amp and venture into Slash levels of gain so it seems like a no go. Can you get them wax potted in the factory' date=' as a sort of custom? and if this is possible, will it ruin the tone of it? Also if this seems a bad idea to you, which other SD P.A.F pup should i get, the 59's or Pearly Gates? thanks[/quote'] I think it depends on just how much gain you use; I don't consider Slash to be a high gain kinda guy so you might be okay. If you go the route that Dave did with a custom order, you could probably specify light potting as a compromise. I know that Jason Lollar and some other smaller custom pickup builders offer that option. Here's a great interview with Lollar where he discusses potting and it's effects on pickups (if you read the entire interview, you'll learn more about pickups than you ever cared to). The part about potting starts on page 7: http://www.lollarguitars.com/pdfs/TQRNov06.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KristofferPence Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 i highly recommend the Seymour Duncan Antiquities hand wound by seymour. they are aged and have a fair amount of output. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongo Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 I fancy the Seth Lovers because they're a pretty good P.A.F pup. the problem is that they're not wax potted and it specifically says on the website that high gain and 50 watt (or above) tube amps are a no go. I have a 50 watt tube amp and venture into Slash levels of gain so it seems like a no go. Can you get them wax potted in the factory' date=' as a sort of custom? and if this is possible, will it ruin the tone of it? [/quote'] Slash isn't a high-gain player in my book. And 50 watts is only 50 watts if you're actually USING all of it. Most guitar players who own 50 watt amps routinely use about 1-5 watts of their amplifiers (and I'm not talking bedroom levels here, necessarily). I think you're fine with those pickups (in fact, I prefer slightly microphonic pickups). Gibson plays it a bit loose with these things -- I think they mostly pot Burstbuckers that go on guitars, but the same Burstbuckers purchased as an aftermarket item may just as easily be un-potted. Should it become a problem (and you won't really know until after you start playing with them) you should be aware that potting pickups isn't a big deal, nor is it even a nail-biter in terms of the possibility of damaging your pickups. There are a number of sets of instructions for doing it on the net. Essentially, you're going to take the covers off and dip and dunk the pickups into melted wax, leave them sit in the wax for a while to allow any trapped air to make its way out of the coils, and then you're going to haul them out and let them cool and dry. There's not much to a pickup; coils of wire around a magnet. Potting does two things; it reduces microphonics (the physical vibration or movement of the tiny strands of wire) and it helps reduce corrosion in the pickup (rusting metal bits can expand and produce sharp crystalline edges and cut the insulation of the coil wires). The whole process, including cleaning the wax off areas of the pickup where it's not doing anything, can take no more than a couple of hours. But I'd definitely give those pickups a chance before dismissing them simply because they're not currently potted. Worst case,if you don't want to take a chance with them (I know that people who haven't done wax potting before are squeamish about trying it with an expensive piece of gear), have a competent luthier do it AFTER you've determined that there IS a problem with whatever combination of power and gain you actually use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fast fret Posted April 12, 2009 Author Share Posted April 12, 2009 Thanks y'all, starting to really help=p~ Another thing that bothers me is that some stages i end up on put me pretty close to my amp, so feedback and squeal might crop up more so with un-potted pick ups. To ease my mind, what's everyones opinions on the 59's compared to the pearly gates? thanks very much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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