ics1974 Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 I have to set the set the intonation all the way to the end and the notes are still a little to sharp. Anyone else have this issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sin Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 yes, I fixed it by changind the nut , The G and the B strings in mine just cut deeper in the slot, but before getting a new one double check your work with a strobber , by ear or both .] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
80LPC Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 ics1974, is this the SG with the 1.5, 2mm action ? What gauge strings are you using ? What can sometimes happen is that when pressing the string at the 12th fret, you press too hard and raise the pitch above normal. Try again, with a lighter touch and see what happens. This is more likely to occur with high frets or scalloped fretboards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TinFish Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 A trick I have seen done is simply turn the saddle around the opposite way so you can get the string a little flatter. I dunno if I would necessarily recommend doing it, but I have seen it done on more than one guitar. Then again I don't think it would really hurt anything just use a pencil to put some graphite on the saddle where the string makes contact. I used to have a Washburn that had the Low E and G saddles reversed and it never caused me any problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ics1974 Posted April 14, 2009 Author Share Posted April 14, 2009 ics1974' date=' is this the SG with the 1.5, 2mm action ? What gauge strings are you using ? What can sometimes happen is that when pressing the string at the 12th fret, you press too hard and raise the pitch above normal. Try again, with a lighter touch and see what happens. This is more likely to occur with high frets or scalloped fretboards.[/quote'] I use .10 strings If I use a lighter touch it is correct at the 12th fret but I never fret that light when playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ics1974 Posted April 14, 2009 Author Share Posted April 14, 2009 A trick I have seen done is simply turn the saddle around the opposite way so you can get the string a little flatter. I dunno if I would necessarily recommend doing it' date=' but I have seen it done on more than one guitar. Then again I don't think it would really hurt anything just use a pencil to put some graphite on the saddle where the string makes contact. I used to have a Washburn that had the Low E and G saddles reversed and it never caused me any problems.[/quote'] How do you turn the saddles around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
80LPC Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Each saddle is retained by a clip that is fiddly to remove and can spring off never to be seen again. The screw is turned and the saddle is then free. There is a potential loss of tone when turning the saddle because the notches are filed at a slight angle. With the saddle reversed, the string no longer has a clean 'break point'. The notch can be filed, but then it is slightly lower than the rest... The easiest solution might be to fractionally lower the action, which reduces the amount of compensation necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 There is a potential loss of tone when turning the saddle because the notches are filed at a slight angle. Are you sure? I know that may be a dumb question. But I never noticed that on my Gibsons. Neither a loss of tone, nor a slight angle. Although I do believe that it should be filed like you wrote. Greetings Kurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
80LPC Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Kurt - The cleaner the break point, the better the tone and sustain. The actual effect on the vibration (hence tone) will depend on the angle. If the angle is shallow, it can introduce an unusual character. I always knew this, but never mentioned it before when people were discussing turning saddles around. I recently read that Dan Erlewine also gives this advice - so I feel I am on safe ground to say this ! The wound strings also deform the notch slightly on the zinc saddles after a while. The effect of angle and wear need to be taken into consideration if a saddle is reversed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Thanks for the answer 80LPC. I believe you are right. What I don´t believe is that the folks at Gibson are really taking care of that. But maybe the notches on all my guitars are deformed by the strings already. Nevertheless it´s a valid information for me, since I didn´t swap the bridge on my A.Y. yet. Maybe you remember that I decided to swap the ABR1 for a Nashville, but didn´t do it yet since the ABR is doing it´s job at the moment. Greetings Kurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg420blues Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 ics1974' date=' is this the SG with the 1.5, 2mm action ? What gauge strings are you using ? What can sometimes happen is that when pressing the string at the 12th fret, you press too hard and raise the pitch above normal. Try again, with a lighter touch and see what happens. This is more likely to occur with high frets or scalloped fretboards.[/quote'] Happens to my guitarist on the other side of the stage ALL THE TIME. He's got a heavy hand, and no matter what he does can't really play in tune ... hahahahahhaa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeRom Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Changing the saddle orintation is a bit of a PITA. Can you maybe lower the T.O.M. on that side a touch? That would make it a little flatter and you might even be able to back the saddle up some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenner08 Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 I am finding that my 61 reissue is intonating sharp on the B and G strings even with the saddles pulled all the way back. The nut looks to be cut pretty shallow, but how can I tell if that is the problem? Is there a standard nut height that I can check mine against? I have also noticed that the bridge has a little wiggle to it. With the guitar tuned to pitch, I can slide the bridge noticeably backward and forwards on the treble side. Is that normal for the tune-o-matic bridge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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