stevezapp Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 I've just sold my GOR first run, as I just didn't get on with her, so i'm thinking of springing for a DF (as I liked the technology, but not the guitar). Have European Dark Fire buyers received their guitars yet? I made the mistake of buying the GOR from the States without playing one, so I want to get my hands on a DF before I make the decision. Oh, are the DF's chambered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elantric Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Dark Fires are chambered Pending Final firmware details, current plan is May 2009 for the next Production run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevezapp Posted April 13, 2009 Author Share Posted April 13, 2009 Dark Fires are chambered Pending Final firmware details' date=' current plan is May 2009 for the next Production run. [/quote'] So no one has received them in the UK then?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elantric Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 In UK/Europe only a limited number were shipped Dec-Jan before all production was placed on hold to resolve bugs and maintain a satisfactory customer experience. Bug List http://forums.gibson.com/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=10683 UK/Europe Waiting list: http://forums.gibson.com/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=14460 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtypurple Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Dark Fires are chambered Pending Final firmware details' date=' current plan is May 2009 for the next Production run. [/quote'] Glad you included the year on that one elantric... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sympodius Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I'm kind of curious. How many dark fire guitars would Gibson be able to produce in, say, one week? Not that I'm holding anyone to any dates at the moment, but if there was a production run in May, what would be a reasonable time to expect delivery of guitars after that point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elantric Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 The more significant factor will be the shipping method employed. Its very typical to place 2000 guitars bound for Europe / UK in two shipping containers - the type that travels the high seas - one bound for Liverpool, the other bound for Hamburg. - Pending no piracy this adds about a month to the delivery date. But travel by Air will take a week due to processing/ customs / etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sympodius Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Interesting point. So, if we consider a worst case scenario for shipping and a best case scenario for a production run, then sometime in June would be reasonable? Again, not trying to get actual dates. Just playing around with hopes and dreams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elantric Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Yes that seems possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sympodius Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Ah... to dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elantric Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 who knows - You could possibly find yourself doing your first string set change on your new Dark Fire while fireworks are being ignited here in the USA as we celebrate our final Independence day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sympodius Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 He he. I'll live in hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockin365 Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 final Independence day?? Am i missing something? Why is this yr a final one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elantric Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 http://tinyurl.com/65xlhl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtypurple Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Look lads, they'll arrive when they arrive. We can either wait or get something else. I think our very good and helpful friend, elantric, is getting a bit fed up with us. mind you, the fact they have to celebrate independance day every year shows you how surprised they are at getting one over the brits! bit like the australians, but at least they fly our flag still and know where their bread is buttered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elantric Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 but at least they . . . . know where their bread is buttered. Which is exactly why I can assure you the remaining Dark Fires's destined for UK / Europe will be shipping and worth the wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sympodius Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 It's certainly good of elantric to feed us so much superb information. I'm not complaining about the dark fire though, just idly postulating dates in my head. Not that I'm complaining, but how does elantric know so much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockin365 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Not that I'm complaining' date=' but how does elantric know so much?[/quote'] He uses his eyes to read and brain to take in information. A trait a lot of us have disbanded for the ease of asking someone like 'Elantric'. Thanks Elantric Am a little clearer might have guessed it would have something to do with a conspiracy theory and illuminati! am surprised that the Priory of Sion didn't get mentioned in the page contents. A link here for anyone thats interested in reading about the priory of sion. Makes for a good lunchtime read! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priory_of_Sion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sympodius Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 What I was really asking was where he was getting the information. I spend a lot of time trying to find info, but my searches seem to mostly pull up forum posts from Elantric. In any case, thanks Elantric for all your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spindrift Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Hey Guys. Still no news of progress?? On the other hand if every day newbugs delaying the delivery progress, we are not out of S**T. Finally I bought a Fender American serie VG stratocaster. My dealer assured me that unlike the UK and european " Dark Air Fire" there was a week of waiting. I spoke with humor of course :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshman Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Still can't believe the complete lack of any info on the Gibson website. We all seem to be getting what little info we have from this forum, but there is NOTHING official. How long would it take for Gibson just to list what is wrong and ROUGHLY how long it will take before they ship? I know that they have ended up with egg on their faces because they tried to launch before the DF was ready (bet someone got canned for that one), but surely its just common courtesy that, when you have THOUSANDS of customers waiting, you let them have at least SOME information. Gibson, do you actually care about your customers, or are you some faceless corporation just looking to take our cash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoPimp Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 some faceless corporation just looking to take our cash? this is a rhetorical question, right ? ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elantric Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Confirmed - May 2009 for the next Production run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshman Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Confirmed - May 2009 for the next Production run. 1. Confirmed where exactly? - No mention on the website that I can find 2. That's when they are going to start making them, when will us poor devils on this side of the Atlantic get them? Will they finish the 2000 for the USA first, or will the first ones come over the pond as we have had none so far? Will these be new builds or the original ones with the bugs fixed? - Still LOTS of questions with no answers. This is not a dig at you Elantric, merely a somewhat frustrated response to the shoddy treatment we customers have received from a company we used to trust and respect. I currently own 3 Gibsons and have sold 2 others. When you add these five to the DF, I have spent what I consider to be a large sum of money with Gibson and am now being treated with contempt. Gibson MUST make an official announcement - SOON! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sympodius Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I too look forward to an official announcement from Gibson to answer some of those questions. But on the upside, a confirmed date for a production run is AWESOME news! Thanks again, Elantric, for feeding us info. You are an awesome dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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