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Hi!

I just bought a J45 Studio Walnut and I love it. The rotomatics are clunky and also don't look great. I was trying to find

Kluson style tuners with the Gibson-esque big off-white knobs WITH 18:1 ratio. The closest ones I've found are the

Kluson Revolution Series and I'm not in love with those either. Any suggestions?

 

Ty!

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I recently bought a used Gibson that had the Grovers.

I like the Grovers and have some on my electrics but do not care for the look and weight on my acoustics.

I put on some Golden Age from StewMac. It almost covered to old holes.

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If it were mine, I'd grab a set of these, https://www.stewmac.com/parts-and-hardware/tuning-machines/solid-peghead-guitar-tuning-machines/gotoh-vintage-deluxe-3-on-plate-tuners or these, https://www.stewmac.com/parts-and-hardware/tuning-machines/solid-peghead-guitar-tuning-machines/kluson-3-on-plate-deluxe-series-tuners even though both are 15:1 ratio.  Probably go Gotoh over Kluson for quality.  The Golden Age tuners, while looking the part, are kinda junk quality.  I've taken them off a few guitars.

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My Grovers on my 2003 J-45 have been used a billion times.

The gold is worn off of them.

They still work perfectly, I've never even considered changing them.

Every instrument I've ever owned with open tuners, I've had problems with the tuners, including my 90 year old Gibson mandolin, and my 61 Melody Maker.

I think Grovers are groovy.

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23 hours ago, G Man said:

If it were mine, I'd grab a set of these, https://www.stewmac.com/parts-and-hardware/tuning-machines/solid-peghead-guitar-tuning-machines/gotoh-vintage-deluxe-3-on-plate-tuners or these, https://www.stewmac.com/parts-and-hardware/tuning-machines/solid-peghead-guitar-tuning-machines/kluson-3-on-plate-deluxe-series-tuners even though both are 15:1 ratio.  Probably go Gotoh over Kluson for quality.  The Golden Age tuners, while looking the part, are kinda junk quality.  I've taken them off a few guitars.

Gman! I live near Boston:) Anyway, thank you for the info. I was looking for something other than the 3 on plate versions. I like these: https://www.stewmac.com/parts-and-hardware/tuning-machines/solid-peghead-guitar-tuning-machines/grover-vintage-135-series-33-tuners but they're 14:1 ratio. I just don't understand why Grover, Gotoh, etc...don't make any versions like these with the higher ratio. I may not have a choice.

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I didn't realize you were looking to get out of the three-on-a -plate look.   In that case the answer is easy, although somewhat pricey.  I just couldn't abide with the Golden Age strip tuners my J45TV came with, so I installed some Waverlys, at 18:1 and with white knobs, they do the job more than admirably.    They can be found at Stew Mac as well, https://www.stewmac.com/parts-and-hardware/tuning-machines/solid-peghead-guitar-tuning-machines/waverly-guitar-tuners-with-ivoroid-knobs-for-solid-pegheads and they also make a 21:1 high ratio version now, https://www.stewmac.com/parts-and-hardware/tuning-machines/solid-peghead-guitar-tuning-machines/waverly-high-ratio-guitar-tuners-with-ivoroid-knobs-for-solid-pegheads  Good luck.

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The Waverly's are great tuners, I have them on a few guitars. I still stand by the Golden age, I haven't had any issues with them. I chose them to hide the footprint of the Grovers. Notice the left-over footprint on G Man's guitar. I prefer the Ivoroid buttons for that old time look.

I once went to Schaller M6 135 that were drop-in's for the Grovers then switched out the buttons.

Down below is my 2020 '42 SJ Banner with the Waverly Ivoroid. It came with Waverly wannabe's that squeaked and popped. Notice there's no footprint from the previous tuners.

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I usually reserve individual tuners for the Southern Jumbo and the other higher end models. When I think of J45, LG, L00 and others, I think of 3 on a plate. Just me.

Kluson, which is now represented by WD Music in the states, did start making some upgraded retro styled tuners for a while but I don't see them out there anymore.

The individuals shown below are what came on my '42 SJ Banner which I had mentioned were not very good quality. The two Kluson sets are some of the upgraded reto's I mentioned. The TonePro series always seemed to be high quality.

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2 hours ago, Leonard McCoy said:

I love the Kluson Supreme and Kluson Wafflebacks tuners. Both feature an 18:1 gear ratio.

Those Wafflebacks are super cool! But when I pulled them up on StewMac the ratio was listed as 15:1?

The Supremes are nice too. Thank you  for the info!

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