jnastynebr Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 just gonna throw my 2 cents in here' date=' if you are unsure about getting a fake why not just buy it from a respected guitar shop it may cost a bit more but you will at least get the right thing, nothing feels better than saving up some hard earned money and getting what you really want.[/quote'] +1. Too many people out there looking to make an easy buck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidfloyd Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Hello everyone, I never really thought the counterfeit problem was too much of a "big deal" until I heard all the stories of people getting ripped off with these, which included a few friends. I also didn't realize just how big of a problem this is in terms of scale. Anyhow, I wrote an awareness article about this topic at my information site http://www.legendarytones.com, which also references some of Gibson's own work to fight this growing problem. I also produced a short 2:30 video, which is a bit "unorthodox" but was fun to create. David www.legendarytones.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackrd Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 fake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n.minas Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Hello to all im new here and have just come to clear up a matter between me and my father](*,) Basically my dad bought a guitar in his youth that he believes and always has done to be a real gibson, however i dont after reading just a few pages on the NET. The reasons i think its a fake is it does not have gibson written on it anywhere and Where it is surpose to say gibson it says CSI is white writting. I have searched images high and low to see if i could find an identical but no luck. This is definatly the only one i can find like it so i am in need of a little help finding out what it is ive actualy got here??? another point is i cannot find no serial number engrave in the wood there is however a metal plate on the back that i cannot read, all i can make out is made in japan (i think) Here are some pictures I hope someone can clear things up for me here! many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeypinter Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 question, do ALL les pauls have the glued strips on the outside of the head stock?? i just bought a '93 special and it doesn't have them. help!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 n.minas. That is not a Gibson Les Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 question' date=' do ALL les pauls have the glued strips on the outside of the head stock?? i just bought a '93 special and it doesn't have them. help!!!!![/quote']The Special does not . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flight959 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 question' date=' do ALL les pauls have the glued strips on the outside of the head stock?? i just bought a '93 special and it doesn't have them. help!!!!![/quote'] If your talking about the binding then don't worry, specials and studios don't have binding. Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
011 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Hey guys, please i need urgent answer ... i have offer to buy Gibson Les Paul custom anniversary 25/50 '78 here's photos Fake or not ??! Thanks in advance.. (sorry on my bad English too) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Everything looks okay. It's missing the TP6 type tailpiece. Does it have a three piece neck and a valute? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
011 Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 i don't know really,i got just these pic's ! Hm, i doubt on logo-- that> I Dot< it's slightly lower than it should be,what you think ?!And 'S' is diferent also !! Check out these which i found and compare>> and now see this one> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Hello to all im new here and have just come to clear up a matter between me and my father](*' date=') Basically my dad bought a guitar in his youth that he believes and always has done to be a real gibson, however i dont after reading just a few pages on the NET. The reasons i think its a fake is it does not have gibson written on it anywhere and Where it is surpose to say gibson it says CSI is white writting. I have searched images high and low to see if i could find an identical but no luck. This is definatly the only one i can find like it so i am in need of a little help finding out what it is ive actualy got here??? another point is i cannot find no serial number engrave in the wood there is however a metal plate on the back that i cannot read, all i can make out is made in japan (i think) I hope someone can clear things up for me here! many thanks[/quote'] Well, as AXE says, it's not a Gibson. It's a CSL copy of a Les Paul Custom from the mid-1970's. All Gibson Les Pauls have what are known as 'set-in' necks; i.e. they appear to be made as a part of the body of the guitar as opposed to the 'bolt-on' necks such as the one in your photo's. Your guitar was probably well-made (in Japan as you say) and has green 'key-stone' tuning pegs which are a nice detail. It may also be fitted with twin-coil pick-ups; If you hold a (steel) screwdriver over your pickups at a similar place to where the screws are but towards the back edge on the neck p'up and the front edge on the bridge p'up you may feel a slight magnetic pull. If you do then you have a pair of twin coil p'ups and the guitar probably sounds quite good. Best wishes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 i don't know really' date='i got just these pic's ! Hm, i doubt on logo-- that> I Dot< it's slightly lower than it should be,what you think ?!And 'S' is diferent also !! Check out these which i found and compare> [img']http://www.rudysmusic.com/images/665.jpg[/img] and now see this one> Don´t waste your time with logos and i dots. To tell for sure you´ll have to check the guitar itself. Check the back of the neck and headstock. It has to be multipiece like the one shown in the pictures. The headstock has got to have the Gibson winglets you see in the pictures. But you are right about the logo, especially the n. And the hardware looks like chrome. As far as I know it should be gold. But again, I doubt that the back of the neck and headstock is as it should be if it´s a fake. It has got to be the same multipiece as shown in the pictures you sent! If you have any doubts don´t buy it or get someone who really knows about to check the guitar in person. Greetings Kurt By the way - you could even ask the Gibson customer/service department. Send them all you know about the guitar, including pictures - they will help you if they can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
011 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 ok, thanks a lot guys ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnastynebr Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 No way its a copy. No one is going to make a replica of the 25/50 (released in the late 1970s) and relic it. The 25 is for 25 years of Les Paul and Gibson, and the 50 is for 50 years in the music biz for Les. Looks like the same finish as the example in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n.minas Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Thanks for the input and for clearing things up for me!! What do you guys figure a copy like this one would be worth nowadays?? Dad seems to think its worth its weight in gold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevezapp Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 I've got the offer of this custom for £600 (approx$1000). Sounds too got to be true, I know. I have my suspicions of the authenticity thanks to the two pics he's sent through. Take a look and feedback please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Walsh Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Ok. This is a real shame but Gibson could easliy combat this. Did you know Carvin uses digital stamping inside their guitars now to prevent loss? It's like Lo-Jack for guitars. If they scan the Guitar itself, it gives the identity of the real owner of the Guitar. It displays purchase information and serial number with manufacture date. So why not have Gibson do something similar? It's the computer age Gibson dudes, so the factory should get a leg up. We love our Gibsons . I for one buy from both Sam Ash and Guitar Center. So if you think about it it's buyer beware...Stay away from fakes with more knowledge. If your new to Gibsons please take the time to become Gibson smart. There's some good books out there about Les Pauls. I'd simply return this guitar for a refund, if at all possible that is. The folks at GC are good about returns. And of course eBay does have warnings about fakes and scams. If your not sure if it's authentic Gibson then wait a week and verify it before you buy. Buying is supposed to be fun. The day I got my first Les Paul it put a smile on my face. Gotta keep it that way. These are great guitars so folks keep making shoddy copies. Yuk. It's gotta be real or no sale! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobyjoe Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 Hello, I have not read all of the posts on this guitar being fake, or not, but I thought I would chime in with my opinion. Unfortunately, it is obviously a fake, sorry. The nail in the coffin is the back of the guitar, it is a bunch of pieces glued together, looks like two. Look at how some of the grain on the back dead ends into other grain. This is a dead giveaway that this is a fake because Gibson uses a solid body, so this would never happen. Also, the wood body looks like Alder, not mahogany. Also, the bridge is wrong and nobody would ever change the correct Gibson bridge for the “wrong” installed bridge on this guitar. Also, has anybody suggested an inspection of the electronics? This will show for sure, but the back is a give-a-way. Sorry, it is fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almcg2 Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 99% fake. The pictures aren´t too good. But even on these pictures you can see that is has a wrong bridge' date=' with screws instead of pins. Wrong tuners, they should have Gibson stamped on ´em. And as far as I can see on the pictures the headstock doesn´t have glued on winglets. But if you want to be 100% sure, you could also send the pictures to Gibson via e-mail and ask them. Or have it checked at a guitar store. Greetings Kurt[/quote'] Not true... sorry.... Gibson does use slot screw type posts in the bridge. I have three Gibbys and they both have screws. I also checked enlarged pics of various Gibson models at Musiciansfriend, they all had screw posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xinnix Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Not true... sorry.... Gibson does use slot screw type posts in the bridge. I have three Gibbys and they both have screws. I also checked enlarged pics of various Gibson models at Musiciansfriend' date=' they all had screw posts.[/quote'] I'm new to this forum and started reading this post. I'm surprised that everyone keeps saying that the screws in the bridge aren't Gibson? Funny, I have a Standard Faded model which does, and every other faded model I've seen on this forum has the screws? So, there you go. Have to back off the 100% fake, and go with the 99% fake. X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedmac Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Even the "Gibson" on the headstock looks like it was written with a white magic marker or something. The letters arent crisp like they are on a real Gibson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatihelloween Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 I found a 2005 Les Paul Custom with a rosewood fretboard. Here are two pics of that guitar. Click here I wonder if it is possible or not for Gibson Custom Les Paul guitars. Serial number is 02005573. He told me that it is '57 VOS. Let me know your opinions, thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b/o 402 Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 I've got the offer of this custom for £600 (approx$1000). Sounds too got to be true, I know. I have my suspicions of the authenticity thanks to the two pics he's sent through. Take a look and feedback please! I'm sorry, my judgment is that that is not a genuine Gibson.- fingerboard is not even close to ebony - fingerboard inlays appear to be too small - truss rod cover plate looks wrong - knob/pot placement looks suspect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thin_Lizzy Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Spotted this for auction tomorrow at Chiswick auction rooms. The blurb says it's real, who are the kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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