Kirk Hammett's favorite version of the Greeny...

[Pinch]

On 5/31/2023 at 4:58 PM, Sgt. Pepper said:

In China they just work by candle light.

That explains the Wuhan incident. 

[Pinch]

I've never understood Ibanez. I have yet to hear an Ibanez that didn't sound tinny. 

[Sgt. Pepper]

14 hours ago, Ceptorman said:

Epiphone is 150 years old this year. 

They were Gibson’s competition in back in the day. Gibson bought them in ‘59 and farmed them out to Asia.

[merciful-evans]

4 hours ago, Pinch said:

I've never understood Ibanez. I have yet to hear an Ibanez that didn't sound tinny. 

I've played a few and find they vary a lot. I cant think of a guitar brand that makes more models than Ibanez. Everything from metal to jazz boxes. They have no manufacturing facilities at all. Not since the early 60s. All of them are made by OEMs in many countries. 

[kidblast]

5 hours ago, Pinch said:

I've never understood Ibanez. I have yet to hear an Ibanez that didn't sound tinny. 

ever had a chance to play a 70s era Artist or Musician?  I had a Musician MC400, it was a beast.

Wish I still had it..

back in the day as they say thing weighed about a ton,

 

Edited June 3, 2023 by kidblast

[Sgt. Pepper]

Steve Via and Paul Gilbert seem to like Ibanez guitars. I got no use for a guitar that doesn't have at least one big hole in the top.

[Dub-T-123]

21 hours ago, Sgt. Pepper said:

Steve Via and Paul Gilbert seem to like Ibanez guitars. I got no use for a guitar that doesn't have at least one big hole in the top.

Ibanez make excellent guitars but for you I’d probably go with a Dean ML Acoustic

[Sgt. Pepper]

1 hour ago, Dub-T-123 said:

Ibanez make excellent guitars but for you I’d probably go with a Dean ML Acoustic

I will take a hard pass on that. My guitars are built in the holy land.

[jdgm]

The original -

 

Edited June 4, 2023 by jdgm

[Sgt. Pepper]

44 minutes ago, jdgm said:

The original -

 

LSD did that guy no favors. Such a talent and he pissed it away. I tried listening to his solo album with the tiger on the cover. Its just an incoherent mess.

Edited June 4, 2023 by Sgt. Pepper

[Dub-T-123]

4 hours ago, Sgt. Pepper said:

I will take a hard pass on that. My guitars are built in the holy land.

Deep in the heart of Nazareth. 
 

I’ve been liking the acoustic work on Peso Pluma’s music lately for a change. Lots of really nice techniques that you don’t really get in American music 

[jdgm]

On 6/4/2023 at 2:57 PM, Sgt. Pepper said:

 I tried listening to his solo album with the tiger on the cover. Its just an incoherent mess.

"The End of the Game" on Reprise.  I'm on my 2nd vinyl copy and have the CD.

And you are quite right; it IS an incoherent mess......except for the 1st track "Bottoms Up" which is a superb jam with some of his best ever lead playing on record:

The track fades in as the players are beginning to mesh.  Green is playing his LP with a wah and a Marshall half-stack with reverb,  By 1m 30 into the track he is taking command and begins to completely dominate the music with his playing.  The phrasing is totally fluent and near-impossible to copy (I've tried it) because of his unorthodox left-hand technique.   The energy level falls off then rises; Green starts to pile it on and for about 4 minutes he is absolutely flying, and the 'Greeny' LP never sounded better IMO.  The track fades after about 8.30 as they are winding down again.  

2 of the musicians ended up in USA bands - Nick Buck in Hot Tuna, and Alex Dmochowski became 'Erroneous' in Zappa's band as you know.  The engineer was Martin Birch who later became a top producer of heavy metal albums - Iron Maiden referred to him as "the Headmaster".  The studio was De Lane Lea which had a particular sound to the room, clearly audible on many other British rock LPs of the time.    Discogs lists all the classic albums recorded there. Look at this lot  -  

https://www.discogs.com/label/268136

I've posted and discussed this cut once before when Jimi Mac was around some years ago.  He didn't agree with me either!

I have no doubt AT ALL that Kirk Hammett knows this track well and probably plays along with it.

And I saw Peter Green playing  the 'Greeny' LP close-up,  jamming a duo with Snowy White in a small club which he did to help the club out.  This was not long after he'd left the Mac.    He wasn't mad then.

 

Edited June 5, 2023 by jdgm

[IanHenry]

20 hours ago, Sgt. Pepper said:

LSD did that guy no favors. Such a talent and he pissed it away. I tried listening to his solo album with the tiger on the cover. Its just an incoherent mess.

As I understand it, Peter's drug problems started after his drink was "spiked" at a party in Germany which exasperated Peters's already fragile mental health.  The list of wasted talent from that period is mind boggling, people like Paul Kossoff, are such a sad waste.

[merciful-evans]

2 hours ago, IanHenry said:

As I understand it, Peter's drug problems started after his drink was "spiked" at a party in Germany which exasperated Peters's already fragile mental health.  The list of wasted talent from that period is mind boggling, people like Paul Kossoff, are such a sad waste.

He had a fragile mind. Highly creative but vulnerable. He couldn't handle drugs. 

[Phil OKeefe]

On 6/3/2023 at 4:14 AM, Sgt. Pepper said:

They were Gibson’s competition in back in the day. Gibson bought them in ‘59 and farmed them out to Asia.

Close - the Epiphone purchase actually occurred in 1957. But yes, Epiphone and Gibson were major competitors during the 1930s –1950s. 

 

Also, all Epiphones were made in Kalamazoo (at the Gibson factory) from 1957 - 1970. After that, production moved offshore to Asia. However, there were multiple models over the years that have been made in the USA, up to and including current USA versions of the Frontier, Texan, and Casino.