Homz Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Should investigations be launched to investigate all who may have torchered detainees held by the United States of America. Furthermore, If those investigations lead to breaches in legal boundary's then should those involved be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninety1vee Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 torture anyway, yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basshole Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 isnt that what they did in mid-evil time? are the finally coming around to it? Hey why is it call "Mid evil" anyway? Did we somehow skip the pre-evil period and post evil period? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninety1vee Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 medieval Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymisterk Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 I don't think they should investigate it if they were following orders; if those orders were given, they should investigate those who gave the orders. The buck has to stop somewhere. I want to see Rummy and Cheney sitting in prison. That said, part of me wants to put the whole sad episode behind us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSG_Standard Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 What is torcher? What is torture? Is waterboarding torture? We do it to our own troops during seer training. Is depriving people of sleep torture? We do it to our own troops during training. Is keeping somebody in a restricted position torture? I think not. Is rough treatment torture? I think not. What is torture now? What was considered torture in 2001, 2002, 2003, and 2004? Remember that after the laws were changed to redefine torture, the harsh interrogations were stopped. Do we prosecute post facto, after the law was changed? Maybe we should prosecute the Senators and Congressmen that knew about what was going on too, as there were many who did, including Jane Harmon (d) California and other top dem senators and congressmen who were notified of what was occurring. What a bunch of liberal/progressive/democrat bullsh!t. Thanks for the change Obonga! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeRom Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 medieval Cap'n dictionary today - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Huh1/1///111?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djroge1 Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 I would take the stance of Jack Bauer even though 24 is only a TV show. You do what needs to be done in order to save lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TinFish Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 What is torcher? What is torture? Is waterboarding torture? We do it to our own troops during seer training. Is depriving people of sleep torture? We do it to our own troops during training. Is keeping somebody in a restricted position torture? I think not. Is rough treatment torture? I think not. What is torture now? What was considered torture in 2001' date=' 2002, 2003, and 2004? Remember that after the laws were changed to redefine torture, the harsh interrogations were stopped. Do we prosecute post facto, after the law was changed? Maybe we should prosecute the Senators and Congressmen that knew about what was going on too, as there were many who did, including Jane Harmon (d) California and other top dem senators and congressmen who were notified of what was occurring. What a bunch of liberal/progressive/democrat bullsh!t. Thanks for the change Obonga! [/quote'] First off, to answer the OP, yes. Secondly, having something done to you willingly and having something done to you against your will are two separate things and the difference between doing these things to troops or doing them to prisoner's is exactly that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Is Dead In My Basement Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Whos been torching who? Damn arsons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Is Dead In My Basement Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 First off' date=' to answer the OP, yes. Secondly, having something done to you willingly and having something done to you against your will are two separate things and the difference between doing these things to troops or doing them to prisoner's is exactly that. [/quote'] Have you ever been water boarded? It is the most horrible feeling you can ever have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TinFish Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Have you ever been water boarded? It is the most horrible feeling you can ever have. No, I haven't. I would imagine it is an unpleasant experience. Have you ever been water boarded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Is Dead In My Basement Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 What is torcher? What is torture? Is waterboarding torture? We do it to our own troops during seer training. Is depriving people of sleep torture? We do it to our own troops during training. Is keeping somebody in a restricted position torture? I think not. Is rough treatment torture? I think not. What is torture now? What was considered torture in 2001' date=' 2002, 2003, and 2004? Remember that after the laws were changed to redefine torture, the harsh interrogations were stopped. Do we prosecute post facto, after the law was changed? Maybe we should prosecute the Senators and Congressmen that knew about what was going on too, as there were many who did, including Jane Harmon (d) California and other top dem senators and congressmen who were notified of what was occurring. What a bunch of liberal/progressive/democrat bullsh!t. Thanks for the change Obonga! [/quote'] KGS have you ever been waterboarded? If you have not please try it. And about the soldiers getting waterboarded they are doing it willingly and not receiving it as an act of punishment. "No cruel or unusual punishment." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Is Dead In My Basement Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 No' date=' I haven't. I would imagine it is an unpleasant experience. Have you ever been water boarded? [/quote'] I tried it twice and it was horrible i even wake up at nights dreaming that i am drowning sometimes. I do not recommend anyone to even volunteer for it if you ever get a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TinFish Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 I tried it twice and it was horrible i even wake up at nights dreaming that i am drowning sometimes. Jebus... why would you "try" water boarding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Is Dead In My Basement Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Jebus... why would you "try" water boarding? Because i did not think it was torture from the way it looked so i saw some guys asking people to volunteer so i went in there and said what the hay after i came out of that i was literally gasping for as much hair as i can get, You literally can not breath at all if you breath you suck in all the water if you hold your breath even worse. I tried it again like a moron thinking the second time i would not feel anything. It also brought back memories from when i was a kid and almost literally drowned trust me waterboarding is torture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TinFish Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Because i did not think it was torture from the way it looked so i saw some guys asking people to volunteer so i went in there and said what the hay after i came out of that i was literally gasping for as much hair as i can get' date=' You literally can not breath at all if you breath you suck in all the water if you hold your breath even worse. I tried it again like a moron thinking the second time i would not feel anything. It also brought back memories from when i was a kid and almost literally drowned trust me waterboarding is torture.[/quote'] I am not disagreeing with you, I also believe it is torture. I just looked on wikipedia though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Is Dead In My Basement Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Before you form your opinion i would suggest to get waterboarded and form your opinion from there and if you come out of it and still say it isn't torture i would respect your opinion even more. Also for all the morons thinking of doing this with their friends please do not do it because you will most likely drown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky4 Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 When terrorists stop cutting off heads and spooning out eyeballs. They don't play fair, why should we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Is Dead In My Basement Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 When terrorists stop cutting off heads and spooning out eyeballs. They don't play fair' date=' why should we? [/quote'] Why should we lower our standards for a bunch of idiots? Why didn't we start baking nazis in death camps? Hitler was doing it. We as a nation abide by a constitution terrorist do not, How can we go around trying to create constitutional governments over seas while we wont even abide to our own constitution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TinFish Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Before you form your opinion i would suggest to get waterboarded and form your opinion from there and if you come out of it and still say it isn't torture i would respect your opinion even more. Also for all the morons thinking of doing this with their friends please do not do it because you will most likely drown. Did you even read my initial post? We are on the same side of this issue. I don't think you need to be water boarded to form an opinion that it is torture. It is described as a horribly painful experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TinFish Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 When terrorists stop cutting off heads and spooning out eyeballs. They don't play fair' date=' why should we? [/quote']That is what is supposed to make you more civilized than them. It is called taking the higher moral ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Is Dead In My Basement Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Did you even read my initial post? We are on the same side of this issue. I don't think you need to be water boarded to form an opinion that it is torture. It is described as a horribly painful experience. I know we are on the same side but i was referring to KSG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TinFish Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 I know we are on the same side but i was referring to KSG. Gotcha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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